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Old 05-02-2013, 12:41 PM
 
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There's no way the Cubs are stupid enough to actually move from Wrigley (and to the suburbs), but by the .0000001% chance that they actually are, Jerry and Co. on the other side of town should have a downtown ballpark plan ready to go the day the Cubs would announce such a moronic move.

Also, if the Cubs do move from Wrigley, a reincarnation of the Whales should play there, the way it was supposed to be 100 years ago.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:51 PM
 
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Anybody that thinks any McCaskey actually lost his job is the kind of person that really ought not let a street hustler ask them to find the pea under the shell...
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Old 05-02-2013, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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If they lowered the size of the jumbotron, would you be on board with it? Or is it the jumbotron itself that you dislike?
I'd rather not see one at all. If they just must have one, I could cope with one (or maybe even more than one) that wasn't so massive that it competes with the existing scoreboard to be the focal point of the entire park. If the intent is just to show replays interspersed with a few ads, they sure as fk don't need something nearly this obnoxious. All of the information on that display is already provided on the existing scoreboard and the supplemental LCD display below it.


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I don't want to see the Cubs leave the city and if it comes down to them leaving vs the huge TV, I will take them staying and the huge TV. But why can't compromises be explored? Maybe more and smaller TV screens around Wrigley in a way that everybody has a good view but do not detract too much from the historical park? After all, the city and the Cubs did manage to compromise on the lights issue to the benefit of all.
Every time a team threatens to leave if they don't get their way I'm tempted to hand 'em a road map and say "GTFO." I can't stand threats as a bargaining tactic, especially hollow ones.
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Old 05-02-2013, 01:48 PM
 
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Default But they are noit really hollow...

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Every time a team threatens to leave if they don't get their way I'm tempted to hand 'em a road map and say "GTFO." I can't stand threats as a bargaining tactic, especially hollow ones.
Back when Reinsdorf was "escalating" the rhetoric to get the State to pony up for a stadium he REALLY DID get a "better deal" from Florida -- the specifics of why he let Thompson "match it" really had more to do with the sentimental feelings he harbored regarding the decades previous relocation of the Dodgers from NY when Reinsdorf was a boy and his desire not to go down in history as another greedy bum of a sports owner...

Money does not grow on trees and the actual "revenue stream" that the Rickets need to keep the Cubs viable will eventually be insufficient IF they do not act to ensure they can maximize all avenues of revenue.

Arguably the specifics of just how "vulernable" Wrigley Field is to "leaking" revenue to non-owned assets becuase of the tiny foot print of the site is the very reason why they need the biggest "blockade" they can design. Folks that compare the park to even Fenway really need to look at the specifics of the site --
Kenmore Square is far more than the low intensity residential developement that Lakeview currently has and the "depth" of Fenway itself has always "walled off" more of the field from outsiders. Short of basically doing some kind of "spaceship on Clark" that would be a riff of what happened at Soldier Field the only way to "enclose" Wrigley is with signage...
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Old 05-02-2013, 02:35 PM
 
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Also, if the Cubs do move from Wrigley, a reincarnation of the Whales should play there, the way it was supposed to be 100 years ago.
Given that the Wrigley experience is more about the environment than the team on the field, it would be great if somebody bought the stadium and just had random things on the field....college games, recreational league games, little league games, soccer matches, etc. I think more people would go to Wrigley to drink beer, chat, and bask in the sun while watching any of those events than would go to the suburbs to see the Cubs.
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Old 05-02-2013, 04:10 PM
 
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Default At one time it was used by the Bears...

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Given that the Wrigley experience is more about the environment than the team on the field, it would be great if somebody bought the stadium and just had random things on the field....college games, recreational league games, little league games, soccer matches, etc. I think more people would go to Wrigley to drink beer, chat, and bask in the sun while watching any of those events than would go to the suburbs to see the Cubs.
I remember seeing Dick Butkus play at Wrigley. It was a very diffferent time...
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Old 05-02-2013, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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CNN posted this today:

Cubs Owner Threatens to Leave Wrigley Field If New Stadium Plan Is Denied | Bleacher Report

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"I don't know where he is going to move," she said. "They come to Wrigley Field because it's an old ballpark, and it's in a neighborhood. Look at this team."
I think the article nailed it right here.
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Old 05-02-2013, 06:57 PM
 
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I remember seeing Dick Butkus play at Wrigley. It was a very diffferent time...
The days of Doug Atkins, Mike Pyle and a very young Dick Butkus and Gale Sayers...and an aging Papa Bear Halas...

I'm guessing that Wrigley wasn't quite as much of a shrine then..
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Although Wrigley would be dumb a holes to move it is possible. I can go either way with them moving. The city would be stupid to not strike a deal but then again who knows.
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:58 PM
 
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Default I am thinking that is a big part of the "strateeegery"...

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Although Wrigley would be dumb a holes to move it is possible. I can go either way with them moving. The city would be stupid to not strike a deal but then again who knows.


The city does not own the stadium. The city has a whole lot of power to help make the roof top owners business very unatteactive by changing legitimate things like liquor licenses and zoning. Ricketts knows this. Rahm knows this. Even the rooftop spokesperson knows this. If Rickets can stay away from asking Rahm for financial help in paying for anything and avoid having anything go to the courts the whole thing goes faster...
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