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Old 05-22-2013, 02:11 PM
 
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Well obviously. Chicago is like the only nice midwestern city. The smartest people in the country from the best schools tend to gravitate to NYC and SF, and Boston to a lesser extent.
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:16 PM
 
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I grew up in Ohio, and I spend my first 17 years figuring out how to get the hell out. The next question was where to go, and the reasonable choices were New York, Boston, Chicago, and California. Although I've lived in all those places except Boston, I wound up buying a house and raising my children in Chicago. I think many other ambitious Midwesterners would tell the same story.
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:49 PM
 
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I agree. Though recently I've noticed lots of Missouri plates parked in the neighborhoods, which I never really saw in the past.
There's actually quite a few native St. Louisans living in Chicago. The job market for professional level jobs is better in Chicago than most of the rest of the Midwest.
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:51 PM
 
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There's actually quite a few native St. Louisans living in Chicago. The job market for professional level jobs is better in Chicago than most of the rest of the Midwest.
I'm sure you are correct in terms of St. Louisans here.
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:54 PM
 
Location: River North, Chicago, Illinois
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Prepare to have your mind blown:
I grew up in Oregon.
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:01 PM
 
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Prepare to have your mind blown:
I grew up in Oregon.
Careful, a few more head exploders:

I have friends here from:

Miami
San Diego
Boston
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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Careful, a few more head exploders:

I have friends here from:

Miami
San Diego
Boston
Wow same here! But...I thought nobody who lives here is from outside the midwest. I also have friends from Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, NYC, DC, and North Carolina..to name a few not counting other countries.
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:10 PM
 
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Wow same here! But...I thought nobody who lives here is from outside the midwest. I also have friends from Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, NYC, DC, and North Carolina..to name a few not counting other countries.
Yeah, I didn't want to melt peoples minds with the fact that I have friends that live here from India, Nigeria, Bulgaria, Venezuela and France as well.

Oh, and our Au Pair is from China.

All have college degrees too!
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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What I find very interesting is that a metropolitan area like the San Francisco-Silicon Valley Bay Area is also a magnet for the best and brightest in the tech sector, and as much as people like to hate on greater Los Angeles, it too is large enough to be a magnet for the best and brightest, entertainment is not the only thing there. Yet, people always talk about people leaving California for Dallas, Austin, Portland, Seattle, Denver, Vegas, etc. because of cost of living, taxes, etc. etc. even if opportunities for career advancement are still greater in California.

But in the midwest its not like this. I wonder if the popularity of cities somewhat go in cycles, regardless of the reality of relative opportunities. The only cities in the greater midwest that people see as being a possible cheaper "substitute" the way Portland or Seattle is an alternative to San Francisco, or Houston or Phoenix as an alternative to LA, is Minneapolis or maybe Pittsburgh, and of those two Pittsburgh was the one that went through rustbelt years.


Possibly because California was all the rage from the 60s through 80s as the promised land, whereas the rest of the west seemed a little too "frontierish" at that time, now everyone thinks California is overrated and not worth it. Whereas Chicago during the same time 60s to 80s was seen as being as somewhat of a has-been, aging city, and when cycled up in popularity from the 90s to today.

It will be interesting what the relationship will be among cities within regions in the coming years.
I think there are people that will leave Chicago to go back to a large city, that isn't as large but more manageable AND still has a good economy and is young and vibrant.

Columbus, Minneapolis, and even Indianapolis would be the larger midwestern cities that are a pull for younger graduates (or those seeking urban living and a liveable, economically growing city without being in one of the largest US cities)
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:23 PM
 
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I think there are people that will leave Chicago to go back to a large city, that isn't as large but more manageable AND still has a good economy and is young and vibrant.

Columbus, Minneapolis, and even Indianapolis would be the larger midwestern cities that are a pull for younger graduates (or those seeking urban living and a liveable, economically growing city without being in one of the largest US cities)
I agree. The list posted earlier in this thread was very interesting showing growth in people with college degrees:

Rate of growth (2006-2011)
+65.0% - New Orleans
+52.0% - Jacksonville
+48.5% - San Antonio
+45.3% - Milwaukee
+39.4% - Nashville
+38.3% - Austin
+38.3% - San Jose
+37.5% - Denver
+36.7% - Houston
+33.3% - Washington DC
+32.4% - Memphis
+31.8% - San Francisco/Oakland
+31.1% - Portland
+30.3% - Oklahoma City
+28.6% - Louisville
+27.0% - Chicago
+26.6% - Dallas/Fort Worth
+25.6% - New York
+25.3% - Virginia Beach/Norfolk
+24.7% - Charlotte
+24.7% - Pittsburgh
+24.6% - Philadelphia
+23.2% - Boston
+22.6% - Minneapolis/St. Paul
+21.4% - Los Angeles
+20.5% - Cleveland
+17.4% - Hartford
+17.0% - METROPOLITAN AVERAGE
+16.9% - Columbus
+16.5% - Richmond
+15.6% - Cincinnati
+14.9% - Indianapolis
+14.7% - Baltimore
+14.7% - Providence
+14.7% - San Diego
+14.0% - Kansas City
+13.1% - Atlanta
+12.0% - Rochester
+12.0% - St. Louis
+11.8% - Birmingham
+11.8% - Raleigh/Durham
+8.8% - Buffalo
+8.1% - Salt Lake City
+6.9% - Orlando
+5.5% - Tampa
+4.6% - Phoenix
-0.6% - Detroit
-2.1% - Las Vegas
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