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Old 05-27-2013, 11:41 PM
 
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They are ruining the Chicago nightlife scene by Wicker Park that is all I know so far
Explain, I think I know what you mean but I am not sure.....
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Old 05-28-2013, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Uptown
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They are ruining the Chicago nightlife scene by Wicker Park that is all I know so far

they are the reason why Wicker's scene exists and have long since moved on to Logan. WP is almost strictly yuppy these days.
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Old 05-28-2013, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Nort Seid
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The hipsters of today are neither hippies, hipsters, nor hep-cats.

In my opinion, their closest bohemian bretheren are to oft-forgotten beatniks, the group that embraced art forms (free jazz, abstract art) that they knew would never be popular with the masses and wore their allegiance to "doomed" art forms (Indie rock, in the case of the modern hipsters) as a badge of honor. This TOTALLY sets them apart from the hippies, for example, who wanted the public to adopt their taste in music and art.

So if I were to construct the great American bohemian evolutionary tree, I would construct it roughly as follows:

Big Band-Era Hipsters
----Hep-Cats (aka, Greasers) (1950's)
--------Punks (1970's)
------------Modern Punks(1980's)
------------Goths (1980's)
------------Emos (1990's)
------------West Coast Grunge(1990's)
----------------Brasilenho (1990's)
----Beatniks (1950's)
--------Hippies (1960's)
------------Modern Hippies (1970's)
--------Hipsters of today (1990's)

This is how I'd score it, anyway.
So what is a 2010's Emo person? Retro Emo? SOL?
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Old 05-28-2013, 01:01 PM
 
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So what is a 2010's Emo person? Retro Emo? SOL?
Is that even still a thing? I thought emo went away nearly a decade ago.
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Old 05-28-2013, 01:08 PM
 
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You forgot "BoBos" -- the rather unlikely marriage of "Bohemian" and "Bourgeois" that has taken place in recent years.

Bobos in Paradise
This is neither unlikely nor recent. Many of the 60's hippies were from upper-middle and upper class backgrounds, as were many of the beatniks before them. We used to call the 90's version "trustafarians" (dreadlocked, tie-dyed, baggy-clothed kids who took daddy's BMW on road trips to music festivals while on break from elite private universities).
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Old 05-28-2013, 01:11 PM
 
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They are ruining the Chicago nightlife scene by Wicker Park that is all I know so far
The fact that anyone would accuse hipsters of "ruining" WP illustrates exactly how meaningless the word hipster has become.

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they are the reason why Wicker's scene exists and have long since moved on to Logan. WP is almost strictly yuppy these days.
Exactly.
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Old 05-28-2013, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Nort Seid
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Is that even still a thing? I thought emo went away nearly a decade ago.
If they're gone, knock on wood...
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Old 05-28-2013, 03:44 PM
 
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I still don't understand what a current "hipster" is. Though having had it explained to me a couple of times, having read a few descriptions, I still don't "get it".

All I can come up with is: Self indulgence, but lacking the money to be be truly wanton.
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Old 05-28-2013, 04:02 PM
 
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I still don't understand what a current "hipster" is. Though having had it explained to me a couple of times, having read a few descriptions, I still don't "get it".
I don't think you're missing anything. There's not much to "get." I agree with nearnorth and marothisu that it seems to be applied to just about any middle class young person in the city who doesn't fit some perceived norm of frattypreppyyuppybig10jockmidwestsuburbanwhatever.

"Oh, you like old things? You like music slightly outside of the mainstream? You read books? You like bars that don't have 47 TV screens showing sporting events constantly? You wear glasses? You ride a bicycle? You like art and literature? You must be a hipster!"

If it means anything more specific than that, I haven't figured it out, either.
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Old 05-28-2013, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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You like bars that don't have 47 TV screens showing sporting events constantly?
I don't like those joints but sometimes on road trips we eat in them because they often have good chow close to the interstate. Anyway I bought a device online called TV Be Gone. It's a keyfob with a small remote control built in that runs through TV turn off codes when you push the button. I use in in waiting rooms like at oil change places and such, just use it surreptitiously. Never used it in a bar though.
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