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Old 06-18-2013, 02:19 PM
 
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Well, looks like they finished a 'protected bike lane' on Milwaukee Av between the Ontario feeder bridge and Chicago Av (as well as probably more, but I dont drive there ). I am amazed seeing this piece of roadway engineering...zigzagging lanes, posts in the street, blind corners, etc. Somehow I suspect the bicyclist injury rate will be higher than what is typical for riding a bicycle in heavy downtown traffic.

The primary reason I'm blowholeing about this is the charming blind corner that has the bicycle lane right up against a side street I use leaving work every day. In order to have enough view of sufficient distance of traffic lanes on Milwaukee Av, the front of a vehicle will need to be butting into the bicycle lane (due to a building right on the corner). As this corner is right at the bottom of the bridge over the Ontario feeder, you know this is where the bikes are going speedy...until a surprise awaits them in the form of a car trying to see traffic approaching.

Any engineering studies actually done for these marvels of roadway engineering?
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:27 PM
 
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I love it, use it daily, and I suspect you will be very wrong. Chicago/Milwaukee/Ogden was one of the worst intersections for bike crashes before the new protected lanes were installed. It certainly seems much more orderly now (especially the bike-only light at Milwaukee/Elston defining what was a real clusterf*ck before), but make sure to check in by the end of the summer so we can see who was right.
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:51 PM
 
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but make sure to check in by the end of the summer so we can see who was right.
LOL, betting who's right with your own welfare and safety. Ok, ignore the concerns of this motorist...I'm sure all motorists are probably even more conscientious as to where that big chunk of steel in front of them might end up when trying to see up the street.
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:58 PM
 
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LOL, betting who's right with your own welfare and safety. Ok, ignore the concerns of this motorist...I'm sure all motorists are probably even more conscientious as to where that big chunk of steel in front of them might end up when trying to see up the street.
It's really not that complicated. Use your brain, drive the speed limit, stay within the lines, and everyone will be okay.
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Old 06-18-2013, 03:08 PM
 
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It's really not that complicated. Use your brain, drive the speed limit, stay within the lines, and everyone will be okay.
An excellent way to ignore sightline issues, well rationalized sir!
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Old 06-18-2013, 03:15 PM
 
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The city wants to make things nice for bikers we don't cause pollution, ease up parking, promote a healthy lifestyle and lend our city progressive cachet.

Milwaukee and Lincoln were by far the most dangerous streets for bikers (due to volume, obviously).

The protected lanes rock.

If you're not exceeding the speed limit I can't imagine you will have any driving obstacles you can't handle.
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Old 06-18-2013, 03:27 PM
 
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An excellent way to ignore sightline issues, well rationalized sir!
Proceed slowly when it appears you can make your turn. Cyclists will see you, you'll see the road. Everything will be okay. If you want we can schedule time for additional lessons if that will put you at ease.
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Old 06-18-2013, 03:48 PM
 
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Proceed slowly when it appears you can make your turn. Cyclists will see you, you'll see the road. Everything will be okay. If you want we can schedule time for additional lessons if that will put you at ease.
Well, I guess Darwin will probably judge this one. Some smug know it all cyclist vs some extra attentive driver yakking on a phone or just driving like quite a number do around here. Add the 'protected' bike lane (for extra cyclist smugness effect)....Darwin's pick for survival probably will not resemble you
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Old 06-18-2013, 03:53 PM
 
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Well, I guess Darwin will probably judge this one. Some smug know it all cyclist vs some extra attentive driver yakking on a phone or just driving like quite a number do around here. Add the 'protected' bike lane (for extra cyclist smugness effect)....Darwin's pick for survival probably will not resemble you
Depends how you look at it. Amazingly, only a few cyclists are killed every year in Chicago.

Balance that against the untold numbers of lethargic drivers who have heart attacks each year that might have been prevented with a bit of exercise.
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Old 06-18-2013, 04:00 PM
 
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Depends how you look at it. Amazingly, only a few cyclists are killed every year in Chicago.

Balance that against the untold numbers of lethargic drivers who have heart attacks each year that might have been prevented with a bit of exercise.
Yeah, really amazing. I generally avoided riding downtown (motorcycle) with the nitwits found around here. Bicycle...a little too sucidal for me.

Just dont get too invincible because the street is painted green
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