Great quote from the fast food workers strike in Chicago (employment, university)

[treemoni]

Originally Posted by glass_of_merlot

Blaming everyone else for her situation

What part of the article led you to that conclusion, because I'm not seeing any blame in the quoted text.

[glass_of_merlot]

Originally Posted by treemoni

What part of the article led you to that conclusion, because I'm not seeing any blame in the quoted text.

Reading between the lines..lol


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[SalingerBananafish]

If HS dropout McDonald's workers are gonna get paid $15/hr, then educated preschool teachers should DEFINITELY be paid more than $12/HR.

I'm not adverse to raising minimum wage but asking $15/hr for unskilled labor is a bit outrageous. And while I'm sure McDonald's can afford, the question is: can all the other industry sectors afford to pay everyone at least the same when they begin demanding it?

[treemoni]

Originally Posted by SalingerBananafish

I'm not adverse to raising minimum wage but asking $15/hr for unskilled labor is a bit outrageous. And while I'm sure McDonald's can afford, the question is: can all the other industry sectors afford to pay everyone at least the same when they begin demanding it?

With companies making record profits, they sure can. The only reason it's "outrageous" is because that's not what we're used to in a capitalist country. If government workers can make at least $15/hr on a fixed budget, surely a corporation can afford to pay its workers a liveable wage. They just choose not to.

[SalingerBananafish]

Originally Posted by treemoni

With companies making record profits, they sure can. The only reason it's "outrageous" is because that's not what we're used to in a capitalist country. If government workers can make at least $15/hr on a fixed budget, surely a corporation can afford to pay its workers a liveable wage. They just choose not to.

But we're not just talking about giant corporations. We're talking about small businesses, jobs at hospitals, public sectors, government positions, school positions, etc. It would affect multiple industries, both private and public. You think people getting paid $9-10/hr for skilled labor are going to just sit around and be happy for kids flipping burgers at McDonald's getting paid more than them?

[treemoni]

Well, ensuring people made a liveable wage is what those evil unions were for. Can't be mad at the next guy because your employer isn't paying you what it should.

[Irishtom29]

Originally Posted by SalingerBananafish

You think people getting paid $9-10/hr for skilled labor are going to just sit around and be happy for kids flipping burgers at McDonald's getting paid more than them?

They shouldn't be happy regardless of what people at McDonald's are paid. In any event people are not supposed to worry about the effects their making more money has on others, a school of modern Capitalist theory teaches us the common good is achieved when everyone strives to maximize their own income. This applies to burger flippers as well as CEOs. If true.

[SalingerBananafish]

Originally Posted by Irishtom29

They shouldn't be happy regardless of what people at McDonald's are paid. In any event people are not supposed to worry about the effects their making more money has on others, a school of modern Capitalist theory teaches us the common good is achieved when everyone strives to maximize their own income. This applies to burger flippers as well as CEOs. If true.

The consequences of it would be far-reaching, especially when it starts happening in the public sector, where capitalism isn't 'supposed' to apply (i.e. there isn't a focus on profit margins). Whether its the endless strikes, political turmoil, and budgeting issues at a time when budgets are at a complete straining point. Havoc would be unavoidable.

And if it actually happens, we all know McD's is going to respond by laying off a major proportion of workers to offset costs. Because that's how any corporate entity would respond to maximize its own income.

I'm all for 'let's see what happens'. I'm just noting that McD's workers probably don't know they're biting off more than they can chew. Granted, it's also likely they are just using the figure to garner a smaller, more reasonable pay bump.

[treemoni]

Originally Posted by SalingerBananafish

The consequences of it would be far-reaching, especially when it starts happening in the public sector, where capitalism isn't 'supposed' to apply (i.e. there isn't a focus on profit margins). Whether its the endless strikes, political turmoil, and budgeting issues at a time when budgets are at a complete straining point. Havoc would be unavoidable.

Bring it on. This is what needs to happen in this country. Too many people are complacent, and the wealthy are getting away with murder.

[Irishtom29]

Originally Posted by SalingerBananafish

And if it actually happens, we all know McD's is going to respond by laying off a major proportion of workers to offset costs. Because that's how any corporate entity would respond to maximize its own income.

I wonder, somebody has to do the work and I don't see employees standing around in McDonald's with their thumbs up their asses, I doubt they have much room to cut back. And besides, maybe we're better off with less jobs paying better money. And if businesses respond by raising prices I'm aces with that, I don't expect this to come at no cost to me.