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Old 08-13-2013, 04:06 PM
 
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Oh wah, someone's having a little snit because he doesn't like me. Boo hoo. I pointed out that Portage Park isn't dangerous because it isn't, and all these posts by people shivering in terror about Lincoln Park and the like (which I'm sure you've seen) are equally absurd.
Oh relax--it's all in good fun....Princess.
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Old 08-13-2013, 04:16 PM
 
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Old 08-13-2013, 07:06 PM
 
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If you're a queen, best to use the British variant sceptre
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Old 08-13-2013, 08:22 PM
 
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Portage Park is no Austin or anything like that but it has certainly seen an influx of Gangs in recent years. I don't know maybe it's because we Northwest Siders have a high standard for safety.
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Old 08-13-2013, 08:53 PM
 
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the neighborhood HAS changed since when i was younger. Just read the crime reports to see what the level of crime is. Some people around here would not know because they never lived there. it has changed. if its so great why are the rents so low? There is a reason. Unfortunately, because I am sadz my old neighborhood has changed so much.
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Old 08-13-2013, 09:20 PM
 
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From what I can tell Portage Park has alot of pressure coming from the South and the East. It's coming from places like Belmont Cragin, Belmont Central, Kilbourn Park and Hanson Park. It's also coming from people being priced out of places like Wicker Park, West Town, Bucktown and even from the Eastern parts of Logan Square and Avondale by gentrification.
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Old 08-13-2013, 09:27 PM
 
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It's certainly has gone downhill slightly, but it's nowhwere near bad at all.
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Old 08-14-2013, 02:55 AM
 
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the neighborhood HAS changed since when i was younger. Just read the crime reports to see what the level of crime is. Some people around here would not know because they never lived there. it has changed. if its so great why are the rents so low? There is a reason. Unfortunately, because I am sadz my old neighborhood has changed so much.
because it's far from downtown and isn't exactly "hip"?

i mean...the crime reports don't exactly paint the picture of a dangerous area.

on the tribune's crime page, it generally ranks in the top 15-20 safest neighborhoods in the city.
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Old 08-14-2013, 07:16 AM
 
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because it's far from downtown and isn't exactly "hip"?

i mean...the crime reports don't exactly paint the picture of a dangerous area.

on the tribune's crime page, it generally ranks in the top 15-20 safest neighborhoods in the city.
NO to your first guess. At one time, it was a very nice, safe, "bedroom community" of sorts. You could live on your block, go to the corner store, the corner drug store too, the park, run out to the Tastee Freeze truck, and go to sleep with doors UNLOCKED.

Now, more crime has entered the neighborhood, the old shop owners many of them have moved out, like the dentist i had, garages have been broken into, more home robberies.. neighborhood is more integrated, is turning Hispanic, used to be more Polish and Italian, now it is more mixed race..

the demographics have changed, something I noticed when driving down Diversey Ave from the lake to Oak Park - this is not meant to be a derogatory comment but a comment meant to show that demographics have changed - the dividing line for the west side was North Ave, then slowly the west siders moved north to the railroad tracks, then in the past 10? years the west siders have moved north past the railroad tracks (the ones between Fullerton and North Ave on Central Ave) are now to Fullerton, and now on my travel down Diversey, black people were seen walking on Diversey, which was unheard of in the 1970's. (in the 1980's i wasn't around so i dont know). Please dont take this as a negative, just an observation.

Some neighborhoods as a result of the changes in demographics have been ok, but some have been for the worse, whether perceived or truism. Unfortunately, I will be bold and say that in many of the people who used to occupy Portage Cragin neighborhood, the changes in racial makeup of Portage Cragin have been negative and crime has increased the more it changed from white to other races.

You may have another opinion, but this is what I am reporting to you. Just ask the old neighbors (the ones who used to live in Portage Cragin, why they chose to move. To escape the change in demographics and crime which was upticked since raciallly changed.
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Old 08-14-2013, 10:37 AM
 
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You may have another opinion,
The thing is, the other "opinion" appears to be based on evidence. Yours appears to be based on fear of people who don't share your skin color.
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