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Old 09-20-2013, 01:14 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Idon'tdateyou View Post
There's a program where people on welfare get a computer. Even so, there are computers at libraries.
But receiving a computer is another handout. Then it's so easy to get to the library, find an
available computer to stay on long enough to take a course, transportation, find a baby sitter.......
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Old 09-20-2013, 01:16 PM
 
Location: USA
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The problem with the OP's attitude is that he's blaming poor people for doing what's in their own best interests. Why is it the fault of poor black people for accepting what is offered to them? There is no need to disparage them. Hate the game, not the player, as they say.

Why don't you call up the legislators who take your money and give it to these people if you have a problem?
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Old 09-20-2013, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Sweet Home...CHICAGO
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Still waiting on you to fill in that blank.

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...I don't care if they fix it or not, I'll survive either way.
Precisely. So why do you care?

Regardless of the numbers. When you can tell me what people of other races who get welfare are doing better than black people or what better opportunities black people have than whites but are squandering due to sheer laziness, then maybe I will listen to you. For now, you are going on ignore.
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Old 09-20-2013, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Here
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You didn't finish the sentence
What are you talking about?

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Still waiting on you to fill in that blank.



Precisely. So why do you care?

Regardless of the numbers. When you can tell me what people of other races who get welfare are doing better than black people or what better opportunities black people have than whites but are squandering due to sheer laziness, then maybe I will listen to you. For now, you are going on ignore.
I never said laziness. I never said opportunities being squandered. There's a racial issue happening. It may not be the black population's fault. But there is a problem and that is evident in the statistics. Do you understand? No you don't, you ignore reality. And like I give a sh-t if you ignore me.
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Old 09-20-2013, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Wicker Park/East Village area
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The other issue that goes virtually ignored is the massive number of ppl collecting disability. It's a system once you get on, there's no way off, you're on forever. People on disability don't get reported as unemployed, they don't get counted in any economic statistics, they're essentially invisible. Not all, but certainly many are abusing the system, and could work.
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Old 09-20-2013, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Wicker Park/East Village area
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For anybody who cares, NPR did a great series on the costs and details of disability.
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Old 09-20-2013, 02:58 PM
 
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But receiving a computer is another handout. Then it's so easy to get to the library, find an
available computer to stay on long enough to take a course, transportation, find a baby sitter.......
Libraries are everywhere.
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Old 09-20-2013, 03:53 PM
 
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Your anger is misplaced. It's the rich that you are subsidizing, billionaires and corporations pay no taxes at all , the game is rigged so the middle class supports the wealthy as well as the impoverished. Wealth is becoming more and more concentrated in the hands of a few, while the middle class becomes poorer and poorer.
Not really. The top 1% get about 17% of income in this country and pay about 23% of federal taxes. Their average effective federal rate is around 22% including income and payroll taxes, compared to around 12% for household in the middle. If you include corporate and estate taxes, the top 1%'s average effective rate is around 33%, while the middle's is around 14%.

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60% of our country's budget goes to the Pentagon. Everything else gets a sliver of the pie and welfare is one of the smallest slivers on the pie.
No it doesn't. Maybe at some point, defense got 60% of discretionary spending, which doesn't count some big ticket items like Social Security and Medicare. If you look at the overall federal budget, defense get's around 19%. The social safety net also gets around 19%, including Medicaid and CHIP (excluding Social Security and Medicare). Of course, social programs also get a lot of state and local funding as well.

(BTW, when you add it all up, defense spending is less than public spending on either health care or education.)

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Poor blacks on welfare get it because of culture, and poor whites on welfare get it because of___________________.

Waiting on you to fill in the blank.

If whites have a better culture than black people then there shouldn't be any whites on welfare at all since the receiving of welfare benefits is more "a cultural thing" that black people need to fix.
What is also "culture," Alex.

The culture issue isn't a matter of race or ethnicity. Inter-generational poverty is its own subculture. Attitudes, behavior and family structure hold people back more than a lack of money or employment opportunities. There might be black/white/latino and urban/rural variations, but they're all responding to many of the same pressures. That's not to say that more opportunity in employment wouldn't help, but the most promising ways to increase opportunity would be to raise tariffs (as least on imports from certain countries) and reduce the amount of low-skilled immigration we allow.
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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Libraries are everywhere.
Speaking of libraries what is the purpose of these modern library signs?



Just how many illiterates do you suppose are looking for the library?
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Old 09-20-2013, 06:11 PM
 
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Speaking of libraries what is the purpose of these modern library signs?



Just how many illiterates do you suppose are looking for the library?
This is hilarious, but behind most ridiculous decisions is some sort of government regulation. I bet there's one requiring library signs to be in international symbolic language, so that people who can't read can go to the library to...never mind.
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