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Old 01-29-2014, 08:14 AM
 
Location: River North
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Thus, unlike Chicago, you have a 100% chance of legitimately loathing whoever you see on a daily basis.

Enjoy the cold. It makes for a more civil society.
Bahaha!
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Old 01-29-2014, 11:10 AM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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Alaska is huge - over twice as large as Texas. Some areas the midwest can get colder than Alaska for sure and other areas ...not so much. The average January temperatures in Fairbanks is barely above 0. You're right about SE Alaska like Juneau which has similar temperatures as Chicago.

I'm still not sure how you think 0 to -10 is "normal" in Chicago. Average lows in December at Midway are 22.7. January is 18.2, and February is 21.7. If we say that 10 days out of every month are below zero (1 in every 3 days you could say is about normal) at an average of -3, then the other days in each month's lows would have to be the following for these averages to stay the same: December = 34.9, January = 28.3, February (28 days) = 35.4. I can't recall many times that the lows were that high in any of these months in Chicago. I don't think the city sees any more than 5 days below zero per year. While certainly it can be expected that a few days a year might dip below 0, it's not exactly normal/average other than saying "Chicago can dip below 0 a few days a year."



Anyway, it kind of reminds me of Nuuk, Greenland. Everyone just assumes it's below zero all year round but the average highs in the winter are 20-25. Unfortunately, it pretty much maxes out at 50 in the summer LOL.
By normal I mean it happens on average multiple times a year, one should expect it every year. One should expect a winter like this year maybe only once in 5 years. It actually goes below zero at night over 10 times a year on average, the last few winters have just been abnormally mild, 2 winters ago was the 4th mildest since the 1800s.. Several years it has been over 20 days a year going below 0. And yes I'm just referring to Juneau.
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Old 01-29-2014, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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By normal I mean it happens on average multiple times a year, one should expect it every year. One should expect a winter like this year maybe only once in 5 years. It actually goes below zero at night over 10 times a year on average, the last few winters have just been abnormally mild, 2 winters ago was the 4th mildest since the 1800s.. Several years it has been over 20 days a year going below 0. And yes I'm just referring to Juneau.
It happens every year, but not that many times. I believe it happens like 3 times, maybe 5, a year on average where temps actually dip below zero at some point in the day. If we had the historical data for many years, per day, I bet the distribution would be pretty damn random for when it's happened. I think the better way to say it is "Don't be surprised if a few nights dip below 0, but don't expect it on most days." It's not normal.


Yes the last two winters were mild for sure. It was nice and I'm hoping that this summer is real nice. As far as geography goes, there's a lot more in place than how far north or south something is located, but I think that's all people think about other than actual topography and things like that
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Old 01-29-2014, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Oak Park, IL
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Since you hate Chiberia, would you prefer CHILASKA?
How bout Chiberta, Chikatchewan, or even Chukon Territory, or Chiwest Territory, or Chunavut?
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Old 01-29-2014, 02:18 PM
 
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I like Chunavut.
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Old 01-29-2014, 02:40 PM
 
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..or Chibec, Chontario or Chitoba...how about Chiba Scotia?
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Old 01-29-2014, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Oak Park, IL
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..or Chibec, Chontario or Chitoba...how about Chiba Scotia?
Chince Chedward Chisland?
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Old 01-29-2014, 02:59 PM
 
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Chince Chedward Chisland?
Fun, but the alliteration is killing me..
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Old 01-29-2014, 05:33 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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It happens every year, but not that many times. I believe it happens like 3 times, maybe 5, a year on average where temps actually dip below zero at some point in the day. If we had the historical data for many years, per day, I bet the distribution would be pretty damn random for when it's happened. I think the better way to say it is "Don't be surprised if a few nights dip below 0, but don't expect it on most days." It's not normal.


Yes the last two winters were mild for sure. It was nice and I'm hoping that this summer is real nice. As far as geography goes, there's a lot more in place than how far north or south something is located, but I think that's all people think about other than actual topography and things like that
Why do you think? Of course it is random. We are both wrong...

Temperatures drop to or below 0 °F (−18 °C) on 5.5 nights annually at Midway and 8.2 nights at O'Hare. (I need to verify this though)

Of course, in years of deviations, you won't have any days below 0, others you will have 3 weeks of it. Same with snow, can be as low as 10, can be as much as 90. The point is, if you live in Chicago long enough you are bound to experience both sides of it. It looks about every 10 years you'll have 2 really cold winters, 2 mild winters, and the rest more or less average.

Here is more data on record Chicago temps

Chicagos Temperature Records

More info when you have time to burn:
http://www.chicagoweathercenter.com/news/almanac/
In addition, the latest non sub zero was very long

From Jan 22, 2013

"Chicago ended an impressive 711 day streak without a sub-zero temperature Tuesday morning. That is the 4th longest such stretch since records began in 1871."

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Old 01-30-2014, 07:18 PM
 
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Chince Chedward Chisland?
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How bout Chiberta, Chikatchewan, or even Chukon Territory, or Chiwest Territory, or Chunavut?
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..or Chibec, Chontario or Chitoba...how about Chiba Scotia?
I have to say, none of these sound any more or less ridiculous than Chiberia, and some of them are far more clever and entertaining. Maybe we can get the media to use a different silly label each time they attempt to convince us that cold weather in Chicago is news.

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The nickname Chiberia makes Chiraq look tolerable or even cool. For some reason, Chiberia just sounds annoying to me.
Fo Sho.
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