The wealthy in Chicago, versus elsewhere (Lincoln, Manhattan: renting, magnet schools, universities)

[probablyimnotsure]

I'm guessing because wealthy Chicago residents do not get as much press as wealthy Los Angeles or New York residents.

[MassVt]

Originally Posted by chet everett

Oh have a drink already!

The hawks smashed the kings hours ago and I have a fridge full of nice craft beer...

Happy the Hawks won, although they were outplayed for much of the game...

[UsAll]

Originally Posted by marothisu

It's not even that - the OP is basically looking at people wearing cashmere sweaters (example) who drive BMWs and assume they aren't charitable and don't give a **** about anything. There's other stuff at play here too - just because you're in a sports bar at a particular moment doesn't mean you are always unsophisticated and it doesn't mean you're stupid either. I can't tell you how naive this is on so many levels for anywhere in the world.

Hey, Woody Allen (for instance) is a super-major sports nut and follower and yet he is the epitome of the ultra-cerebral intellectual. I am an ultra-cerebral intellectual and yet have no interest in sports of any type whatsoever (though I don't look down on it in any way; it just doesn't interest me or do anything for me personally) and yet I think Woody Allen is very cerebral, highly intelligent and a deep intellectual. He is but one of a multitude of examples which illustrate that a person can be majorly enamored of and preoccupied with the world of professional sports and yet be very sophisticated and highly intelligent.

[It'sAutomatic]

[quote=oak317;34857955
It could be that I recently graduated college and I'm having trouble adapting. I've made friends in Lakeview, Uptown, but not in Lincoln Park.[/QUOTE]

Good luck making friends with people you judge like this.

[chet everett]

Originally Posted by It'sAutomatic

Good luck making friends with people you judge like this.

Makes me think of this -- Narcissism And What's Underneath - Personality Disorders

[oak317]

Originally Posted by chet everett

Makes me think of this -- Narcissism And What's Underneath - Personality Disorders

Don't know where you're going with this, because this article holds no water. It puts the idea on the table that AL GORE is a narcissist for his warnings about climate change when, lo and behold, in 2014, we're seeing the effects of climate change, and a France-sized part of West Antarctica just broke off into the ocean.

[MPowering1]

Originally Posted by oak317

I've been reading up on their bios, and it seems that for most of these people, the donations aren't targeted at Chicago public schools or making the south side a safer place.

Don't you remember the voices we heard after the Sandy Hook school shooting, when people from the south side reminded us that the death of school-age children happens EVERY year in their neighborhoods?

I'm sure if something tragic like that happened in Chicago people would come out in droves. But do you really think philanthropists are going to sink money into a pit that is as mismanaged as the CPS? It's been a sinking ship for years and money isn't the problem, so throwing more money at it isn't the answer.

These people have donated millions of dollars to the park district, Northwestern University, University of Chicago, Northwestern Memorial Hospital, etc. They do a lot locally.

[oak317]

Originally Posted by MPowering1

I'm sure if something tragic like that happened in Chicago people would come out in droves. But do you really think philanthropists are going to sink money into a pit that is as mismanaged as the CPS? It's been a sinking ship for years and money isn't the problem, so throwing more money at it isn't the answer.

These people have donated millions of dollars to the park district, Northwestern University, University of Chicago, Northwestern Memorial Hospital, etc. They do a lot locally.

I think it has less to do with donating money, and more to do with starting a dialogue, particularly a dialogue about this around the time of elections.

Getting politicians to make promises about improving crime in the city, and rehabilitating certain neighborhoods. The same way that NYC cried out about housing inequality and now Bill de Blasio is bending over backwards to provide safe, affordable housing.

[marothisu]

These people do donate a lot and do start dialogues. Perhaps you aren't as educated about the city as you think you are.

[oak317]

Originally Posted by marothisu

These people do donate a lot and do start dialogues. Perhaps you aren't as educated about the city as you think you are.

I'll be the first to admit that.

I regret the emotional thread-starter that I created since I was merely in a bad mood. I should have worded it this way... 'There's a problem in Chicago with crime and the quality of public schools. Does anyone know of any ongoing efforts to deal with these issues?'