Where's the love for Lil Durk?

[Drover]

Originally Posted by Dennis Brown

As a native NYer I prefer the Common "Resurrection" / Lupe Fiasco "Kick Push" style of rap out of the Chi than the current "Drill Rap" scene

So does anyone else who can't stand atonal noise masquerading as "music."

[Vlajos]

I had never heard of Lil Durk until this thread. Then I saw that his cousin was killed and they mentioned him in a tribune article. The only reason I have heard of Chief Keef is from here and a young white dude originally from NW Indiana in my office who loves him. I have since listened to and watched a video of Keef's. Awful.

[Dport7674]

Originally Posted by Drover

The "glorification of outlaws" may not be anything new, but these creeps are using their music to fuel active gang wars. And record labels and other major media like Youtube are helping them do it and they know it. That goes beyond the abstraction of "glorify[ing] our outlaws," that's straight-up blood money and a gross dereliction of corporate responsibility.

No different than the 'creeps' who used to peddle 10 cent books about Billy the kid.

[Drover]

Originally Posted by Dport7674

No different than the 'creeps' who used to peddle 10 cent books about Billy the kid.

Yes, it is different.

[todd00]

Originally Posted by Dport7674

No different than the 'creeps' who used to peddle 10 cent books about Billy the kid.

The only thing most people know about the old west are what they saw in the old shoot'em up western TV shows and movies. To compare the affects the music and videos have on these kids today to Billy the Kid books is a ridiculous laughable comparison.

" Regardless of whether or not these guys are out there selling their brand of music, there is still violence in the streets". You are right about that Reppin. And gang types are responsible for most of it.

Here's a good one, MassVt.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/5511356?wm...652070&veh=sem

[MassVt]

I've never heard of "Billy the Kid" books--why would anyone ever bring him back to prominence?

[Dport7674]

Originally Posted by todd00

The only thing most people know about the old west are what they saw in the old shoot'em up western TV shows and movies. To compare the affects the music and videos have on these kids today to Billy the Kid books is a ridiculous laughable comparison.

Bullshhit.

Throwaway books, whose sole purpose was to glorify the blood and murder aspect of the outlaw lifestyle, are different than the throwaway rap songs of today? Those books profited in blood money just like they do today.

What about the gangster movies of the 30's? They weren't influential on the young people of the day? The people making those movies made fortunes. Blood money.

I wonder if poster 'Todd' finds those movies as equally "sickening" as he does rap music? I wonder if he goes off on a self-righteous tirade, where he states the boring obvious, every time TCM shows one?

My only point was why do we hold young rappers feet to the fire for glorifying violence, when they're just the modern day version of something that's been here all along?

They're giving the people what they want. If rap music didn't exist, someone would have to invent it to fill the need for it.

[todd00]

Why hold the rappers feet to the fire? Maybe because of the number of murders and violent acts done by the targeted group. If all that stopped there would still be violence from the gangs, but this seems to glorify it in the eyes of the youngsters that are actively being recruited at an early age. I only spoke up because I wondered why there should be a thread about this rapper killed when good folks injured and killed never get a mention at all here.

As far as your other points. Were the majority of the targeted groups in the 30's growing up as many of the impressionable kids in the hoods are today? Without proper parenting, often by teens too young to be having kids, without a positive male role model in their life, and with drug peddlers all around them? Back then kids tended to have respect for their elders, any mischief a kid got up to would often get back to the parents before the kid was back home. Kids knew no meant no, no back talk, none of that stuff. Times are different.

The old crime movies on TCM rarely show any films with graphic violence, they play old classics, often they show black and white flicks that are very tame by today's standards. The old films didn't make the average kid want to grab a gun and go rob and kill people. The ones with lots of violence used to be rated R. As a kid I played with toy guns had the holsters like the cowboys, watched the westerns of the time but it didn't make me want to go out and kill anyone. I didn't idolize the bad guy in the movie and wanted to live like he did. I didn't know any kids that did. Kids were naive, much more so than today. I don't like very graphic violence in films and I don't think it's been a positive thing for kids to grow up seeing.

So you call me what you will. Because I speak up, it's a self-righteous tirade. Whether you believe it or not I do care and I wish I could make all the violence end.

[rzzz]

Originally Posted by Dport7674

My only point was why do we hold young rappers feet to the fire for glorifying violence, when they're just the modern day version of something that's been here all along?

Everyone knows "why"

[reppin_the_847]

I don't know about you guys, but Lil Durk's jam "Bang Bros" has beat that is pillow soft almost like a trance remix done to a slower hip hop / trap BPM. Gotta love the indirect connection to the porno site. On tracks like that, the dude doesn't sound hard at all lol.