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Old 06-25-2014, 05:39 AM
 
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WOW, THIS IS AWESOME-

ChicagoMeO

Not only did I find the names you gave me but they opened up links to other GREAT information. Seems North Ave was the spot back in the day.

Leatherman: The Legend of Chuck Renslow - Tracy Baim, Owen Keehnen - Google Books


(I know that's a crazy link to a book but it seems the information in that book will be invaluable...definitely going to purchase it)

mjtinmemphis you gave so many details in every category that will keep Google and I very busy. But your information will give me a clearer view on Black Gay life as a whole from every aspect. A special thanks.

I do have one more question if I may, are any of the predominantly black gay establishments OLD as in been around for 30 or 40yrs? In NY I have found bars (that have long ago closed) that were open in the 20's and 30's.

Do you know if any of these clubs date back that far? Or maybe not THAT FAR but back into the 1960's or 70's?

Again I appreciate your help and the time you both took for all of this EXCELLENT information, it has helped me more than either of you know and I really do appreciate it!
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Old 06-25-2014, 01:49 PM
 
Location: River North, Chicago, Illinois
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Blacks don't support homosexuality, especially the Blacks in Chicago. Good luck though!
Don't be silly.

To the O.P.:

Regarding even older gay, black history, it's a little-known fact that the very first homosexual rights organization in the country, the Society for Human Rights, was founded in Chicago in 1924, and it's first president was an African-American man named John T. Graves.
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Old 06-25-2014, 07:46 PM
 
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Don't be silly.

To the O.P.:

Regarding even older gay, black history, it's a little-known fact that the very first homosexual rights organization in the country, the Society for Human Rights, was founded in Chicago in 1924, and it's first president was an African-American man named John T. Graves.

Emathias,

That is exactly why I want to do this. I am 49 yrs old and NEVER heard of this organization or Mr. Graves. This is the type of information/HISTORY that needs to be compiled and shared so that we all know it and grow because of it.

I can already see that this is going to be a daunting task to take on but I going to go for it. Thank you VERY MUCH as I'm sure MANY have never heard of this before. I really do appreciate it.
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Old 06-25-2014, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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I'm just wondering, but are you compiling research right now to write a book or something?
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:05 AM
 
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I'm just wondering, but are you compiling research right now to write a book or something?
No, no book. When I get this information together I will post it on some free site and send it around to all the Black Gay Websites so the information is out there all to see. Five years from now if some young 18yr old black gay person Google's "Black Gay History" I want a long list of information to pop up. Right now Google has a whole lot of nothing. If I were writing a book I would be asking everyone to send it to a personal email (LOL) Here everybody sees the same EXACT information that I am seeing.

But I do appreciate everybody's help.

Sad note, I go to some of the Black Gay facebook pages of people I KNOW COULD ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS EASILY...NEVER GOT ONE REPLY FROM ANY OF THEM!

It is what it is
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Old 07-01-2014, 10:40 AM
 
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The Ritz..Rialtos...Club 63...Martin's Den...Den One...Trade & Flavor...Stop & Drink...Jeffery Pub...Jackies'...back in the day Black Gay folks PARTIED!!! Yessssir!! If you need more info and locations let me know.....jakthis2000@yahoo.com
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Old 07-01-2014, 08:19 PM
 
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I was watching a Jeffrey Behr tour of the south side and i remember him saying (maybe in 1930 or so) that Bronzeville and 63rd street WERE the places to be! so maybe the OP can check something about those neighborhoods. actually he could check a Jeffrey Behr video - its Channel 11 in Chicago. WTTW.
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Old 07-02-2014, 03:57 PM
 
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I was watching a Jeffrey Behr tour of the south side and i remember him saying (maybe in 1930 or so) that Bronzeville and 63rd street WERE the places to be! so maybe the OP can check something about those neighborhoods. actually he could check a Jeffrey Behr video - its Channel 11 in Chicago. WTTW.
I don't live in Chicago but I found the video online and will check it out and try to research the neighborhood.

http://www.wttw.com/main.taf?p=76,4,4,8#bronzeville

Thanks for your help, I really do appreciate it. This may help with Black Gay History but it will DEFINITELY help with Black History overall. Thanks again!

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Old 07-02-2014, 04:42 PM
 
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I was watching a Jeffrey Behr tour of the south side and i remember him saying (maybe in 1930 or so) that Bronzeville and 63rd street WERE the places to be! so maybe the OP can check something about those neighborhoods. actually he could check a Jeffrey Behr video - its Channel 11 in Chicago. WTTW.

Wow ChicagoMeO, that turned out to be an EXCELLENT find. I really appreciate your post as it leads to information about the 20's and 30's. I really do appreciate the help I've received from all the people on this site!

Homophobia in the Black Church: How Faith, Politics, and Fear Divide the ... - Anthony Stanford - Google Books



http://outhistory.org/exhibits/show/*****-bronzeville

second URL won't post correctly but anyone interested can go to home page and see another article on Bronzeville.
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