Mexican Racism Towards Whites in Little Village (Union: rated, location)

[ChiNaan]

Originally Posted by holl1ngsworth

While 3% of Turkey lies in southern continental Europe it defined as an transcontinental Asian country. There are also huge ethno-linguistic differences that exist between mainland Europe and Turkey. It's definitely not European.

And if you read my whole post, you would see that I clearly pointed out that the UN's definition of Southern Europe includes all the countries that have sizable Muslim populations -- of which there are three. There are in fact no countries in Eastern Europe that have even a sizable minority of Muslims. Do your geographic definitions of the world trump those of the UN?

/FTW

Okay, so I was correct with my guess that you were splitting hairs with your definition of Eastern Europe. That's all you really had to say. To be fair, I guess you did give the warning that you enjoy nitpicking. You weren't kidding, were you?

[holl1ngsworth]

Originally Posted by ChiNaan

The two bolded statements cannot both be true. Which is it? (Unless you're saying Kosovo is not in Eastern Europe, which is debatable and splitting hairs a bit.)

Also, don't forget that part of Turkey is in Europe.

/threadjack

http://esa.un.org/unpd/wup/CD-ROM_20...ND_REGIONS.pdf

[holl1ngsworth]

Originally Posted by ChiNaan

Okay, so I was correct with my guess that you were splitting hairs with your definition of Eastern Europe. That's all you really had to say. To be fair, I guess you did give the warning that you enjoy nitpicking. You weren't kidding, were you?

I think it's important that we don't allow stereotypes and assumptions about people and places to perpetuate -- no matter how minuscule. Judging from your posts here, I think this is something we can agree on, no?

[ChiNaan]

Originally Posted by holl1ngsworth

http://esa.un.org/unpd/wup/CD-ROM_20...ND_REGIONS.pdf

Excellent google-fu. Now google Kosovo Eastern Europe and see some different links. It's debatable, and you're nitpicking.

[ChiNaan]

Originally Posted by holl1ngsworth

I think it's important that we don't allow stereotypes and assumptions about people and places to perpetuate -- no matter how minuscule. Judging from your posts here, I think this is something we can agree on, no?

Yes, I agreed with your overall point. Just found the apparently contradiction to be perplexing.

[holl1ngsworth]

Originally Posted by ChiNaan

Yes, I agreed with your overall point. Just found the apparently contradiction to be perplexing.

No contradictions. A poster claimed there are many countries in Eastern Europe that are Muslim. That is false. There are none.

There are indeed Muslim countries in Southern Europe, but even within that region, it doesn't qualify as many.

No one in their right mind would qualify Kosovo as being in Eastern Europe. In fact, it is completely West of all proposed geographic midpoints of Europe.

The problem I have is when people assign all countries of Slavic origin to Eastern Europe. This happens even in Europe, where working-class Slavics of all origins are lumped together in a rather derrogatory way as "Eastern Europeans." Eastern Europe is a geographic location, not a race of people. And to lump them all together (Kosovo with the true geographic East) does injustice to the diversity of all the many Slavic people of Europe.

Kind of like when white people here lump all Hispanic or Latino people into "Mexican."

[jonnynonos]

Ha...the real white population of this country is probably about 60-65 percent, if you take that to mean as Caucasians of indigenous European origin. At some point people are going to have to accept that any human being can be "racist" toward any other.

You think only white people make the semantic Hispanic gaff? Not African Americans? Not Asians?

Wake up.

[ChiNaan]

Originally Posted by jonnynonos

You think only white people make the semantic Hispanic gaff? Not African Americans? Not Asians?

Who said that? It's debatable that it's even a "gaff" (sic). Like I said, it depends on whom you ask.

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by ChiNaan

The two bolded statements cannot both be true. Which is it? (Unless you're saying Kosovo is not in Eastern Europe, which is debatable and splitting hairs a bit.)

Also, don't forget that part of Turkey is in Europe.

/threadjack

Eh - about 15% of the population of Turkey lives in Europe actually in East Thrace. They take part in EU activities, but it's not right to say that they are really European. They're both European and Asian, but most of Turkey resides in Asia.

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by holl1ngsworth

While 3% of Turkey lies in southern continental Europe it defined as an transcontinental Asian country. There are also huge ethno-linguistic differences that exist between mainland Europe and Turkey. It's definitely not European.

And if you read my whole post, you would see that I clearly pointed out that the UN's definition of Southern Europe includes all the countries that have sizable Muslim populations -- of which there are three. There are in fact no countries in Eastern Europe that have even a sizable minority of Muslims. Do your geographic definitions of the world trump those of the UN?

/FTW

This is true, but the culture there in many parts especially on the west coast is fairly european with a touch of Middle East/Asian sprinkled in there. That's why I love Turkey so much - fascinating place to visit. It is almost all in Asia - totally, but the culture is not even close to purely Middle Eastern or Asian. It's a mix of all of those and in some areas it's very, very European. The language is unlike most European languages, but eh. Hungarian is actually not terribly far off from it, but Turkish is more similar to Korean and Japanese in semantics and syntax than it is to Italian, actually.