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Old 09-02-2015, 08:39 AM
 
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Originally Posted by ControlJohnsons View Post
Midwesterners are generally narrow minded socialists, I see transplanted ones in NYC act like this to minorities as well, especially towards hispanics.
As said here - they are merely small minded - try to feel pity for their ignorance because it can work to your advantage. Tell them you are a black belt in Karate and your father is an acclaimed astrophyscist who discovered Gannymeade - they will believe you. Now imagine them believing that of any other minority.

Remember you are actually broadening their limited horizons. Remember, it is not forever, nowhere in the world is perfect - if you were actually working in Asia you would have an entirely different set of stereotypes based on your look, competency in local language, etc.
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Old 09-02-2015, 08:44 AM
 
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It sounds like during your life in NYC you never went out in Murray Hill, Hoboken or anywhere in Long Island.

You run into the same kind of thing in the bars there. Bros trying to get a rise out of people, and race is an obvious and easy way to do it.

Not to let Chicago off the hook, but there isn't really a Chicago wide tendency towards asian-american racism. You were going out in the bonehead zones.

I do think as the city becomes more of a place for rich white kids, it's actually going backwards in this respect. Places like Wicker Park used to be very chill and nothing like this would have happened in the 90s. However now I wouldn't be surprised if your stories came from over there, too.
I'm white, and have lots of Asian friends so I have experienced scenarios from an interesting vantage point. My experience when associating with my Asian friends is there is a certain type of Asian who gets the brunt of racial abuse from non-Asians and and Asians as well. It is typically the clueless, impolite Asian person with no manners and and no consciousness of his or her surroundings. Now, I don't condone any racism, but this isn't any different than when I've seen a group of rednecks walk into a quiet sushi restaurant and act rude and barking at the waitress, or the black guy who goes into a buffet and stays there for 5 hours and when asked to leave, things erupt and racial words are exchanged. When people are angered, they tend to resort to the lowest form of argument, and in a state of rage, racism manifests because that's the first thing that comes to their mind to differentiate themselves from the other.

I've observed that it is very rare for someone of any race who is minding his or her business to be victim of racist slurs. But I've seen all types of people be called out for behaving in a way that offends the people in that particular establishment.

For instance, I've even been at dive bars after work with my friends and had another white person yell, you yuppies don't belong here...

I wouldn't get too sensitive to it, this sort of behavior exists all over the United States.
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Old 09-02-2015, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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I'm white, and have lots of Asian friends so I have experienced scenarios from an interesting vantage point. My experience when associating with my Asian friends is there is a certain type of Asian who gets the brunt of racial abuse from non-Asians and and Asians as well. It is typically the clueless, impolite Asian person with no manners and and no consciousness of his or her surroundings. Now, I don't condone any racism, but this isn't any different than when I've seen a group of rednecks walk into a quiet sushi restaurant and act rude and barking at the waitress, or the black guy who goes into a buffet and stays there for 5 hours and when asked to leave, things erupt and racial words are exchanged. When people are angered, they tend to resort to the lowest form of argument, and in a state of rage, racism manifests because that's the first thing that comes to their mind to differentiate themselves from the other.

I've observed that it is very rare for someone of any race who is minding his or her business to be victim of racist slurs. But I've seen all types of people be called out for behaving in a way that offends the people in that particular establishment.

For instance, I've even been at dive bars after work with my friends and had another white person yell, you yuppies don't belong here...

I wouldn't get too sensitive to it, this sort of behavior exists all over the United States.
The common sense and truth this post contains has no place in this forum.

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Old 09-04-2015, 10:35 AM
 
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Well, if they're conservative enough, then race is thrown out the window. They just have to be "true believers".
As oppose to "true believers" of modern liberals?
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Old 09-04-2015, 10:38 AM
 
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Pretty much, yeah. Racists will vote for other races if they espouse the same policies as their own. Even Mississippi would elect a black governor provided he is ultra-conservative.
Bold: Wait, what? Then wouldn't that make them not racist, or at least not as racist as you think they are?

This board and their views on the South, Republicans and conservatives are ... bizarre. It's like I stepped into a bubble of talking points and unchallenged beliefs.
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Old 09-04-2015, 10:57 AM
 
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Bold: Wait, what? Then wouldn't that make them not racist, or at least not as racist as you think they are?
Why wouldn't it make them racist? A racist can vote for a black guy. Doesn't mean the voters don't hate blacks.

Hitler was a short, swarthy half-Jew, yet he espoused racist policies and was supported by those with Aryan dreams. Doesn't mean people who supported Hitler weren't racist. Hitler didn't need to be tall, blond and Aryan to be evil.

There were Jews in the Nazi party. That doesn't somehow lessen the horrors of WW2.
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Old 09-04-2015, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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^ Hitler 1/4th Jewish.
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Old 09-04-2015, 12:47 PM
 
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^ Hitler 1/4th Jewish.
Kate Middleton 1/4 Jewish
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Old 09-04-2015, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Hyrule
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Jindal is now an *evangelical* Catholic. His parents are Hindu. What is interesting to me is that he was introduced to Christianity after a friend told him he and his parents were going to Hell. It took him two years to convert. He has also participated in an exorcism. His actual name is Piyush, but he named himself after Bobby Brady. Jindal has said he has “no problem” if public schools want to teach creationism or intelligent design. He has also been one of the most vocal defenders of the “Duck Dynasty” reality TV clan. How much of this is out of real conviction and how much is for political support is hard to guess. My grandchildren are half Indian, btw. While they are only culturally Hindu, they have more respect for Hinduism than for Christianity at this point.
Yikes.
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Old 09-04-2015, 02:18 PM
 
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Governor Jindal has some pretty impressive academic background --

5 Things You Should Know About Bobby Jindal : It's All Politics : NPR

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He's a Rhodes scholar — and had a young start in government and public policy.

Jindal graduated at just 20 years old from Brown University with degrees in both biology and public policy. He was admitted to both Harvard Medical School and Yale Law School, but he turned down both to attend Oxford University as a Rhodes scholar.

There, he studied health policy and eventually returned to his native state to serve as secretary of the Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals — all at the young age of 24. Four years later, at just 28, he was appointed the youngest-ever president of the University of Louisiana system.
Parent's background is impressive too --
From Piyush to Bobby: How does Jindal feel about his family
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Bobby Jindal’s father, Amar, was born and raised in Khanpur village,...
“Every time I saw him he was reading a book,” recalled a local Hindu priest, Sudama Ram Sharda, 84, who performed Amar’s marriage ceremony. “Either lying on the cot reading or in the shop.”
... the aspiring engineer Amar fell in love with a classmate’s sister, Raj, a doctoral physics candidate. The two — both from the bania, or “trader” caste — married in 1969, a rare love marriage at a time when arranged unions were far more commonplace.
...They were among India’s brightest young minds, but they had dreams wider than their country’s shores. In 1971, they sold Raj’s wedding dowry and moved to the United States, where Raj had gotten a scholarship to Louisiana State University. About four months later, she gave birth to her first son.
... Raj went to work for the state of Louisiana as a data processor while Amar worked as a civil engineer. ... Jindals were part of a small community of Indian families in Baton Rouge at the time, many who had come to Louisiana for university jobs. There was no temple then, and Bobby Jindal remembered that they gathered at someone’s home most Sundays for Hindu religious ceremonies known as pujas, with potluck curries afterward.
His conversion happened well before any politics were on deck --
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As a child, he announced he wanted to go by the name Bobby, after a character in “The Brady Bunch.” He converted from Hinduism to Christianity as a teen and was later baptized a Catholic as a student at Brown University

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