Crime Spillover to "Nice" Neighborhoods (Chicago, Berwyn: buy, to live)

[NealIRC]

Who said anything about race? ;p

[green apple]

Originally Posted by Chicago60614

I've been in lakeview for 12 years now, living around boystown, wrigleyville and burna park and things have been very steady. With all the blogs and sites and social media there's definitely more stories and reports and stats you can access so it seems like crime is crazy, but back 10 years ago it was much harder to see the stats at your fingertips.

Things have been pretty steady, it's still a very safe area for its 100,000 residents.

Yep. I live less than a mile from the OP's block, and I feel very safe. So who's "on the ground" reporting counts - everyone's, or just those that feed into pat little arguments about crime and criminal pathology?

[PerseusVeil]

For a lot of people the difference seems to be the perception rather than the crime stats. More cops actually walking Halsted and Clark late at night would certainly help in this regard, as criminals know that there are a bunch of drunk people stumbling out of bars all hours of the night.

I'm usually one of said drunk people, but I can't say I've ever felt that I was in danger. I do have a friend who had her apartment get robbed in Lakeview, but, in the same time period, I had a relative have their whole home robbed in Bucktown, so I can't honestly say the robbery turned me off of Lakeview by any means. Stuff like that can, and does, happen everywhere.

[beaniemac]

Originally Posted by Runuova

Lots of racist here!

there really are.

but such is common when you have the anonymity of the internet on your side.

[ForYourLungsOnly]

Originally Posted by FAReastcoast

I live very very close to the intersection of Lakewood and Waveland, one block east of Southport.
Not sure of my beat off top of my head, but I'd be surprised if the crim in my neighborhood is actually down, and if that's the case, that's pretty scary.
I know petty crime comes with territory of living in city, and am no stranger to big cities as I grew up in Manhattan, I'm also aware that a city like Chicago is more vulnerable to break ins than NYC, but for the neighborhood, the crime levels are completely unacceptable in my opinion.

Wow, you live extremely close to me. I haven't personally noticed any difference, but I know our particular part of lakeview has seen a bit more this past summer and fall than usual. There was 3 men just caught a day ago that were responsible for a string of roberies for months. Hopefully with them gone it'll help out. I know the shots fired thing was (around T box i think??) party related when a guy from the burbs got into an altercation with someone.

[ForYourLungsOnly]

Originally Posted by marothisu

Just in general for Lakeview, here are some crime statistics by year for the entire community area via https://data.cityofchicago.org/Publi...sent/ijzp-q8t2


Burglary
2015: 295
2014: 361
2013: 387
2012: 705
2011: 537
2010: 505
2009: 535
2008: 694
2007: 637
2006: 711
2005: 775
2004: 843
2003: 793
2002: 559


Assault
2015: 208
2014: 189
2013: 201
2012: 245
2011: 234
2010:226
2009: 219
2008: 261
2007: 255
2006: 259
2005: 262
2004: 280
2003: 326
2002: 228

Battery
2015: 766
2014: 715
2013: 905
2012: 979
2011: 950
2010: 841
2009: 890
2008: 1005
2007: 1008
2006: 962
2005: 892
2004: 947
2003: 993
2002: 734

Robbery
2015: 196
2014: 234
2013: 356
2012: 346
2011: 317
2010: 283
2009: 278
2008: 278
2007: 230
2006: 246
2005: 278
2004: 298
2003: 294
2002: 283

not too bad

[NealIRC]

Racism isn't the issue here, prejudice is.

If such and such are true, then there really are a bunch of sensitive ****s in here.

All of Chicago is like that.

You walk around Englewood, minding your own business, and $*** will happen to you.

You walk around Little Village, minding your own business, and $*** will happen to you.

And you walk around Jefferson Park/Norwood Park then of course the police will stop and frisk you.

Stop and frisk is only an issue if you be carrying illegal **** on you. Because if not, then it's a good thing as it allow you to show CPD you different and not typical.

I've been questioned by White people simply for walking around Canaryville.

Time to man up.

[andrew61]

I was stopped and frisked once in Chicago. About five years ago. Apparently I fit the description of a guy who snatched someone's purse in a park near where I was walking.

(I'm white, by the way.)

[Runuova]

"Time to man up", what the hell are you talking about? Yeah, man up and get searched when you leave the hood. You know you're different than us so you have to prove to us you're not a criminal. By the way NealIRC, showing CPD I'm not typical? What does that even mean? And how will the CPD remember I'm not typical? Will they tell me "good job" when I walk away? Please explain this startling new info you've presented.

Why does every white guy in here tend to have that one story that they are willing to pull out their a** in comparison to being a black male having the same issue?

[NealIRC]

Originally Posted by Runuova

"Time to man up", what the hell are you talking about?

About complain about stop-and-frisk.

Originally Posted by Runuova

"Yeah, man up and get searched when you leave the hood. You know you're different than us so you have to prove to us you're not a criminal. By the way NealIRC, showing CPD I'm not typical? What does that even mean?

Meaning CPD thought you were criminal/thug by the way you dress, but you showed them wrong.

Originally Posted by Runuova

And how will the CPD remember I'm not typical? Will they tell me "good job" when I walk away? Please explain this startling new info you've presented.

Why does every white guy in here tend to have that one story that they are willing to pull out their a** in comparison to being a black male having the same issue?

That just goes to show CPD don't just frisk Black people, they stop and frisk other races too.