Illinois......are you staying or leaving?

[compactspace]

Originally Posted by flamadiddle

It's much deeper than that and you know it.

Emanuel announces immigrant legal fund - Chicago Tribune



I don't have an issue with Illinois per se, it's the dirtbag running Chicago that really bothers me.

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Could you be happier in an older, denser suburb of Chicago that leans republican? You'd likely see many big-city amenities, you'd be free of the southern heat and Emmanuel would be at arm's length. The commuter towns New Hampshire near Boston might also be up your street. I'm not trying to be facetious, just musing on possibilities.

America's big, dense, amenity-filled cities are all very liberal. Hell, even Dallas, Atlanta and Salt Lake City are liberal; if you switch from Chicago to a different place it might just make things worse.

[EddieOlSkool]

Originally Posted by compactspace

Could you be happier in an older, denser suburb of Chicago that leans republican? You'd likely see many big-city amenities, you'd be free of the southern heat and Emmanuel would be at arm's length. The commuter towns New Hampshire near Boston might also be up your street. I'm not trying to be facetious, just musing on possibilities.

America's big, dense, amenity-filled cities are all very liberal. Hell, even Dallas, Atlanta and Salt Lake City are liberal; if you switch from Chicago to a different place it might just make things worse.

Yup. I think because once people realize what it takes to run a city, small-government, right leaning economics don't make sense. And on the social issues side, authoritarian views on people's private lives also make no sense since you're now exposed to different groups of people and more or less you realize *gasp* people can actually live in the same place and you don't have to care what someone else is doing with their life!

Maybe Naperville would be up this person's alley. Chicago doesn't really have super Republican suburbs however. In Chicagoland when people vote Republican it's because they tire of city politics, and not because they care about the gays or abortion or read a lot of Breitbart articles. Usually they just lean right on economic issues and on the social issues they couldn't care less.

You'd be hard pressed to find conservative bastions in the Great Lakes honestly. For that you would have to move South or Southwest. Suburbs of Arizona cities are more conservative as are Texas suburbs or where I live in Louisville. There you go. Come trade places with me and enjoy these insular White people!

[coldwine]

Originally Posted by flamadiddle

It's much deeper than that and you know it.

Emanuel announces immigrant legal fund - Chicago Tribune



I don't have an issue with Illinois per se, it's the dirtbag running Chicago that really bothers me.

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But you know what? Living in a city means having to deal with ****. It means having to deal with people of different lifestyles, different opinions, different... everything.

Too many people in this nation right now frankly need that experience. It would do our nation a world of good if everyone just lived in a city for two years, dealt with some ****, and then moved back to whatever blank suburbia they want to live in.

You think Rahm is bad? Have you seen the people who lead other states, let alone cities? Look at what Sam Brownback did to Kansas.

Look at Pat McCrory and his cronies in North Carolina. He lost the election, refused to concede, and literally destroyed the democracy of a state because he didn't think elections should matter if they disadvantage him.

You're going to be just fine in Chicago. Rahm is not going to personally torment you.

[Taco1234]

Back on topic... Plenty of reasons to leave:

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/artic...ies-over-state

"But that's just stating the obvious. Pretty much anybody paying half attention out there knows the people who run the government are participating in an "unprecedented failure." This has never happened before in Illinois, or in any other state for that matter.

However, here's another Fitch phrase: "Fundamentally weakened," as in "Even if the current attempts at a resolution to the extended impasse prove successful, Fitch believes that the failure to act to date has fundamentally weakened the state's financial profile."

[Justabystander]

Originally Posted by Taco1234

Back on topic... Plenty of reasons to leave:

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/artic...ies-over-state

"But that's just stating the obvious. Pretty much anybody paying half attention out there knows the people who run the government are participating in an "unprecedented failure." This has never happened before in Illinois, or in any other state for that matter.

However, here's another Fitch phrase: "Fundamentally weakened," as in "Even if the current attempts at a resolution to the extended impasse prove successful, Fitch believes that the failure to act to date has fundamentally weakened the state's financial profile."

Then just leave already. Many of us are happy here, and continue to hope for some kind of fix in Springfield in the future. I grew up in California, but found alot to love here in Chicago, I think it is a great city and has a lot to offer compared to most that I have been to. Sometimes you just have to get through a situation; I think the current administration is a case in point. I seriously doubt you will be happy no matter where you go.

[Taco1234]

Originally Posted by Justabystander

Then just leave already. Many of us are happy here, and continue to hope for some kind of fix in Springfield in the future. I grew up in California, but found alot to love here in Chicago, I think it is a great city and has a lot to offer compared to most that I have been to. Sometimes you just have to get through a situation; I think the current administration is a case in point. I seriously doubt you will be happy no matter where you go.

The topic here is: Illinois, staying or leaving. Why are you personally offended? Nobody forced you to read my post! For the record: we are leaving, but I still find it amusing that the news literally gets worse by the day and people will continue to justify and make excuses. I get a kick out of it!

[EddieOlSkool]

Chicago is now competing with NYC as far as college grads with Bachelor's Degrees or higher. Obviously someone thinks it's worth going there.

[PJSaturn]

I'm giving up trying to salvage this thread. It's rife with personal attacks, bickering and off-topic comments. The most recent inappropriate and orphaned posts have been deleted but the rest will remain. There just aren't enough hours in a day. The thread is now closed.

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