Is Chicago more transient than other big cities? (Ohio, Victoria: real estate, apartment complexes)

[Clark&Addison]

Originally Posted by Slats Grobnick

They've pretty much taken over the nightlife/bar scene in Lakeview, Lincoln Park, Bucktown, Wicker Park, West Loop, Roscoe Village, and recently Logan Square. Avondale and Uptown will be there next target, and probably Pilsen.

There is no "they" with some kind of secret agenda "targeting" neighborhoods. Nearly (there are some exceptions) every single neighborhood in the city looks VASTLY different today both demographically and physically than it did 50-60 years ago. The simple fact is that young people want to live around other young people and amenities that young, often single people typically enjoy. It is not a new phenomenon, nor is it unique to Chicago, nor is it some targeted conspiracy.

There is nothing wrong with being melancholy or sad about seeing neighborhoods change, I've seen it to a degree around where I grew up (although not so much "yuppies" moving in) and it is sometimes frustrating, but faulting young people for wanting to live their lives in vibrant city neighborhoods with easy access to the loop and other young people nearby is ridiculous.

[Mutiny77]

Originally Posted by DavePa

Does this mean mighty NYC is more transient too?

In a sense it actually is. Basically all of the domestic migrants leaving the Tri-State region (and there are several hundred thousand of them) are replaced with immigrants.

[Mutiny77]

Originally Posted by prhill

NYC is hardly the greatest city in the country. I doubt it is even the greatest city in the state of New York

Only a Chicagoan would say something like this LOL.

[prhill]

Originally Posted by Mutiny77

Only a Chicagoan would say something like this LOL.

No that is not true at all

[valpofan11]

The wealthier people who have kids tend to move out. If you don't have kids, and you are in a good neighborhood, you'll probably stay so long as you keep the same job. You'll probably see more couples choose not to have kids in the future.

[knitgirl]

Originally Posted by valpofan11

The wealthier people who have kids tend to move out. If you don't have kids, and you are in a good neighborhood, you'll probably stay so long as you keep the same job. You'll probably see more couples choose not to have kids in the future.

No, the really wealthy people stay and send their kids to Latin or Lab, or the British school or Lycee Francais. It's the middle - upper middle who move.

[flamadiddle]

Originally Posted by knitgirl

No, the really wealthy people stay and send their kids to Latin or Lab, or the British school or Lycee Francais. It's the middle - upper middle who move.

I'd agree with this because "Chad and Trixie" don't want to pay high taxes in addition to private school tuition $$$ when you can find great public schools in the burbs. Now if they have buckets of money laying around, Chad and Trixie may opt to stay in the city and send the kids to private school.

But this is pretty much true of every major metro, no?

[andrew61]

Originally Posted by prhill

NYC is hardly the greatest city in the country. I doubt it is even the greatest city in the state of New York

I don't get this at all. What other cities do you have in the state of New York? Buffalo? Rochester? Syracuse? Albany? Binghamton?

What city in the state of New York might be considered to be "greater" than NYC?

[prhill]

Originally Posted by andrew61

I don't get this at all. What other cities do you have in the state of New York? Buffalo? Rochester? Syracuse? Albany? Binghamton?

What city in the state of New York might be considered to be "greater" than NYC?

I have met people who prefer many of the places you mentioned. New York city is known for many very negative things you know which is why some people prefer some of the places you mentioned an others

[reppin_the_847]

Originally Posted by prhill

I have met people who prefer many of the places you mentioned. New York city is known for many very negative things you know which is why some people prefer some of the places you mentioned an others

The fiscal policies of New York state definitely hurt those smaller metros in upstate NY. Much of Upstate NY & especially Western NY is rustbelt territory that has gotten decimated economically during the past several decades. Most of the resources are allocated towards NYC (much like Chicago in Illinois). I'd argue that a place like Pittsburgh, PA has recovered & diversified better and is more thriving than almost any of the upstate NY cities.