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At some point I'll leave if I can convince my employer to let me work remotely. It's an interesting city, but the crime/weather/taxes/pension issues/crap schools/racial tensions are pretty taxing. Somewhere in Vermont would be ideal; my god it's a beautiful state.
04-18-2017, 11:28 AM
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That's a little ironic isn't it? Since your impression of Chicago reflects the superficial media narrative of the city.
Did you read the article I posted in the OP? My thread is not all about how I keep meeting people from Chicago here in DC. Its also backed up by the article I posted.
And yes, I meet people from all over the country and the world in DC. But lately I meet more people from Chicago than anywhere else. Coincidence? Maybe. That's why we make threads and talk about things.
04-18-2017, 11:33 AM
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Did you read the article I posted in the OP? My thread is not all about how I keep meeting people from Chicago here in DC. Its also backed up by the article I posted.
Or maybe you meet more people from Chicago in DC because Chicago is the third largest metro area in the country, and the second largest (LA) is 2600 miles away and has much better weather than either. If 5% of the people in every city moved to Wash DC, LA and then Chicago would have the most new residents for you to meet. I would expect the number of people you meet in DC from elsewhere might largely correlate to former metro size along with distance from/to, climate, jobs, economy, etc.
And the article you posted failed to acknowledge that their "data" only amounted to 0.2% of the population of Chicago leaving. Instead they tried to reinforce their headline by only noting how many people left Chicago without putting it in perspective of total metro area population.
A simple Google search would have told you there are 32 metro areas that have had bigger % declines than Chicago since 2010, some way more, just for example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States
IOW, I don't think your premise is well founded to begin with. It's an empirical observation as far as we know.
And we gave you the reasons on page 1, they were in the article you linked as well...
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04-18-2017, 11:44 AM
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Or maybe you meet more people from Chicago in DC because Chicago is the third largest metro area in the country, and the second largest (LA) is 2600 miles away and has much better weather than either. If 5% of the people in every city moved to Wash DC, LA and then Chicago would have the most new residents for you to meet. I would expect the number of people you meet in DC from elsewhere might largely correlate to former metro size along with distance from/to, climate, jobs, economy, etc.
And the article you posted failed to acknowledge that their "data" only amounted to 0.2% of the population of Chicago leaving. Instead they tried to reinforce their headline by only noting how many people left Chicago without putting it in perspective of total metro area population.
A simple Google search would have told you there are 32 metro areas that have had bigger % declines than Chicago since 2010, some way more, just for example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States
Metro size and proximity is a good point. But then I should be meeting more people from NYC and Philadelphia than Chicago. But that is not the case.
04-18-2017, 12:18 PM
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Metro size and proximity is a good point. But then I should be meeting more people from NYC and Philadelphia than Chicago. But that is not the case.
I seriously doubt there are more people from Chicago in DC than people from Philadelphia or NYC. Anecdotal evidence is interesting, but it's also anecdotal. Most of the people who leave Chicago do so for places like NWI, AZ, NC, TN, TX, etc. DC is a lateral move (at best) city-wise and is considerably more expensive. People (mainly retirees) don't move to DC for better weather and a lower COL.
04-18-2017, 12:36 PM
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Totally ridiculous blanket statements. What's interesting is in the eye of the beholder. In my opinion, the beautiful tree cover, gorgeous scenery and endless places to travel to (within a few hours drive) are wonderful reasons to raise a family in northern Georgia. Maybe you're paying $2100 now, but once you add in a family and move to Chicago burbs be prepared, if you want 4 bed/bath 3000 sq ft home) to pay $3500+ monthly. I've learned that with small children we spend 90% of our time in burbs and our kids enjoy hikes, mountains and natural beauty far more than a concrete jungle of homes with 15K taxes. We were thisclose to buying a home in naperville 2 years ago for 650k with 16k taxes ... Now we'll enjoy a gorgeous home in alpharetta with trees surrounding it, a creek behind us, serenity and beauty. Couldn't be more peaceful, and our mortgage will be around 2k (vs close to 4k). After multiple trips to Atlanta our kids cry each time we leave and say they can't wait to get back to the trees... Oh and we have multiple amenities within 5 minutes of our new home, so... I'm not sure where you're talking about that has "nothing to do". That's just idiotic.
Just be careful out there...I know you were concerned about crime/safety in La Grange previously. Unfortunately, Alpharetta's crime rate is considerably higher than that of La Grange.
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I seriously doubt there are more people from Chicago in DC than people from Philadelphia or NYC. Anecdotal evidence is interesting, but it's also anecdotal. Most of the people who leave Chicago do so for places like NWI, AZ, NC, TN, TX, etc. DC is a lateral move (at best) city-wise and is considerably more expensive. People (mainly retirees) don't move to DC for better weather and a lower COL.
I'm not sure what the numbers show but I would guess you are right. Arizona seems like the most popular destination amongst retirees and the other areas mentioned seem most popular amongst young families, particularly those with single incomes or below median household incomes.
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Our neighborhood is exceedingly safe, we're not concerned. Just excited!
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Doesn't it make sense that you'd meet more people from Chicago than from Cedar Rapids or Peoria type cities?
04-18-2017, 04:11 PM
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Metro size and proximity is a good point. But then I should be meeting more people from NYC and Philadelphia than Chicago. But that is not the case.
The Chicago metro area is about 50% larger than Philly, but fair point re: NYC. However, your "data" is anecdotal. Have you actually tracked how many people you've met and where they're from, from a large enough sample and for long enough to draw conclusions?
While not metro areas, but here's some fairly recent data on in-migration to DC that seems to contradict your hypothesis. From states the migration to DC has been:
MD
VA
NY
CA
FL
MA
PA
NC
TX
IL
https://www.scribd.com/document/2399...een&from_embed
And this from Jan 2017 says migration to DC has "slowed to a crawl" from everywhere.
https://www.pressreader.com/usa/the-...82054801702969
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People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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