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Old 10-15-2017, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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What largely Black neighborhood in Chicago has really ever gentrified anyway?
The "Skid Row" nieghborhood? And currently the South Loop is gentrifying, alas the near south side.
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Old 10-15-2017, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Southwest Suburbs
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I'll tell you what: South Shore has a better chance of gentrifying than Englewood. It's among the few very high crime predominiately AA areas that is still pretty much intacted with housing and high density for a southside 'hood. In that sense, it's no worse off than some hoods that are in the beginning stages of gentrification or has experience its first wave of hipsters such as Humbodt Park area. Also, it's around the same distance from the loop as Rogers Park on north side.

The reason it most likely won't gentrify in the near future because it's too African American(95%).
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Old 10-15-2017, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Galewood
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Developers leveled the Cabrini housing projects, kicked out the existing residents, and built gleaming new townhomes with high-end amenities that sold for a low price relative to other properties in Old Town. It didn't gentrify in the true sense of that word.
Bru, what’s your meaning for gentrification? Is it more about the residential development vs commercial development?
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Old 10-15-2017, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Developers leveled the Cabrini housing projects, kicked out the existing residents, and built gleaming new townhomes with high-end amenities that sold for a low price relative to other properties in Old Town. It didn't gentrify in the true sense of that word.
That's gentrification.
Hipsters aren't necessary.

Did Maxwell street not gentrify?
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Old 10-15-2017, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Chicago, Little Village
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That's gentrification.
Hipsters aren't necessary.

Did Maxwell street not gentrify?
No it isn't and no it didn't. That's called redevelopment. The truth is that no white people in any numbers have ever voluntarily moved to a predominantly African-American neighborhood in our city without massive redevelopment projects. As an aside, that's kind of surprising to me given how liberal our city is, or pretends to be.
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Old 10-15-2017, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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No it isn't and no it didn't. That's called redevelopment. The truth is that no white people in any numbers have ever voluntarily moved to a predominantly African-American neighborhood in our city without massive redevelopment projects. As an aside, that's kind of surprising to me given how liberal our city is, or pretends to be.
So what then, are only Latino nieghborhoods supposed to be gentrified?
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Old 10-15-2017, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Yeah. Why you hating on us mexicans?
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Old 10-15-2017, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Chicago, Little Village
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So what then, are only Latino nieghborhoods supposed to be gentrified?
No. Everything is supposed to be integrated enough so that one demographic group is not sequestered in low opportunity high crime areas. When liberals complain about that group being downtrodden by police brutality, realtor redlining, business disinvestment, and lack of city services, they are not supposed to take a knee or repost an editorial on their Facebook page. They are supposed to be rushing to move into those areas and rectify the injustices with their presence, money and actions, not words or token gestures.

Anyhoo, back to reality. I'm only pointing out what's actually been happening over the last 30 years in actual practice. No African-American neighborhoods have gentrified in Chicago during that time. Trying to say it is so doesn't make it so.
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Old 10-15-2017, 03:43 PM
 
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I'll tell you what: South Shore has a better chance of gentrifying than Englewood. It's among the few very high crime predominiately AA areas that is still pretty much intacted with housing and high density for a southside 'hood. In that sense, it's no worse off than some hoods that are in the beginning stages of gentrification or has experience its first wave of hipsters such as Humbodt Park area. Also, it's around the same distance from the loop as Rogers Park on north side.

The reason it most likely won't gentrify in the near future because it's too African American(95%).
Between Rogers Park and the Loop you have River North, the Gold Coast, LP, Lakeview, and Edgewater. That's in terms of lakeside neighborhoods with things to do.

Between the Loop and South Shore you have South Loop and Hyde Park.

Biiiiiig difference.
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Old 10-15-2017, 04:45 PM
 
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I'll tell you what: South Shore has a better chance of gentrifying than Englewood. It's among the few very high crime predominiately AA areas that is still pretty much intacted with housing and high density for a southside 'hood. In that sense, it's no worse off than some hoods that are in the beginning stages of gentrification or has experience its first wave of hipsters such as Humbodt Park area. Also, it's around the same distance from the loop as Rogers Park on north side.

The reason it most likely won't gentrify in the near future because it's too African American(95%).
South shore has such a nice housing stock. And it is so cheap because of crime, but it's also far from the city & relies on the Metra instead of the L. If the L was down there, I think it would have a shot at gentrifying in the next 25 years
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