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Old 09-07-2009, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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Bridgeport is changing. A couple of years ago I was in Sheehan's and a Black guy came in to get a quick drink. A couple of the guys at the bar went after him but some other guys protected the fella. He didn't get his drink but he didn't get his ass kicked either. And they did see he got a six-pack to go.

 
Old 09-07-2009, 11:53 PM
 
Location: Logan Square
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^^I don't see the difference between working at businesses in Bridgeport (which tons of AAs do since there aren't a lot of businesses in Englewood/Fuller Park) and patronizing businesses there. If anything you'd think that Bridgeport residence would rather have AAs come into Bridgeport and spend their money than to have them come up from south of 47th to work and then spend their earnings elsewhere.
 
Old 09-08-2009, 01:03 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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lol, i see you responded to my post. Nah i dont really have the guts to go there, . but its cool. Wow i didnt know it was only than 1% AA. I always thought it was at least like 5%. lol
No harm in going there these days, even if it's out of your element as a place to live.
 
Old 09-08-2009, 02:33 AM
 
Location: Southwest Suburbs
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lol, i see you responded to my post. Nah i dont really have the guts to go there, . but its cool. Wow i didnt know it was only than 1% AA. I always thought it was at least like 5%. lol
Nah check the 2000 census, I doubt the demographics changed that much.
Bridgeport, Chicago: Information from Answers.com

Ironically, Bridgeport is one of the most diverse with 1/4 is Chinese and 1/3 Mexican. Despite other groups being welcomed, older AAs especially I talked to see it as a forbidden area like a sundown town. I seen a few AAs walking there as probably workers though. Its a reason why its only 1% and I bet most of them live closer to 47th St.

But there are blacks in Armour Square east of Bridgeport.
 
Old 09-08-2009, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Nort Seid
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I guess my problem with the "best" and "worst" designations is that it only adds to the segregation and de facto redlining that occurs. People in Chicago really do draw a lot of their identity from their town or neighborhood, and it's a little out of hand. Why can't we have a mix of incomes living together anywhere in this metro area? What happened to towns or neighborhoods with people from all walks of life living together? The only places you see this any more is in some smaller towns. Of course no one with money wants to live in a high-crime area filled with the poor, but it seems like there is a happy medium that's largely ignored in Chicagoland (and in most other American urban areas).
We can't have a mix of incomes thanks to assessment-based property taxes. Richer people, and to be fair I'd guess often unknowingly drive poorer people out of their neighborhoods by raising the cost of land, which leads to tax increases. I know a lot of people don't feel property taxes in Chicago are that outrageous, because they are more familiar with suburbs (which often have far superior public schools), but for the loads of people in Chicago who are middle class but don't get regular COLA increases or raises (cops, teachers, non-for-profits, retirees, etc), an extra few hundred bucks a month every few years is brutal, and the cumulative effect is wealthy people come in, moderate and low income people leave.

now some folks might tell you that's been the game plan all along... I'm not sure Hizzoner is actually that smart, though.
 
Old 09-08-2009, 01:19 PM
 
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There seems to be a general tone of dislike and some disgust for neighborhoods on the South Side and West Side, particularly areas with high concentration of Blacks and Hispanics. As someone who grew up on the South Side I'll be the first to admit the South Side isn't as hip or trendy as the North Side, but the way some of the people here describe it borders on a pompous attitude. Just my observation.
There's alot of ignorance on this forum, I too am from the south side (Bridgeport) and currently live on the west side (Humboldt Park). They are really not that bad at all unless you don't like minorities (and actually, even though Brideport is on the south side, it is a white neighborhood, *gasp*). Many people here bash these places because they assume that just blacks live there, it must be a dangerous and crime infested. This doesn't apply to everybody here obviously, just most of them. I happen to like the south and west side better, the north side i find boring and hoighty toighty.
 
Old 09-10-2009, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Suburbs of Chicago
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there are alot of places on the south side i wouldnt mind living @ either. Bridgeport is one. morgan park. Parts of roseland are pretty decent too.
Most of Morgan Park is great. Some of Roseland is decent. I grew up in the nicer part. I loved it and sometimes miss living there. I was around middle class older people and sometimes their children or grandchildren. Very quiet at night, and I found myself welcomed with neighbors who I could identify with.

I'm not sure on Bridgeport, too afraid to go there.
 
Old 09-11-2009, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Nort Seid
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so here's a question - when does the North Side stop being the North Side and become the West Side? When does the West Side (moving north) become the NW Side? These terms seem fairly fluid, in the sense that anything north of Madison is north in one sense, but west is obviously a bit more gray, given that pretty much everything on the north side is west of State.
 
Old 09-11-2009, 09:25 AM
 
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There seems to be a general tone of dislike and some disgust for neighborhoods on the South Side and West Side, particularly areas with high concentration of Blacks and Hispanics. As someone who grew up on the South Side I'll be the first to admit the South Side isn't as hip or trendy as the North Side, but the way some of the people here describe it borders on a pompous attitude. Just my observation.
Likely because there are some neighborhoods that are ABSOLUTE **** HOLES! Get off your moral high horse I'm sick of people like this.
 
Old 09-11-2009, 01:39 PM
 
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so here's a question - when does the North Side stop being the North Side and become the West Side? When does the West Side (moving north) become the NW Side? These terms seem fairly fluid, in the sense that anything north of Madison is north in one sense, but west is obviously a bit more gray, given that pretty much everything on the north side is west of State.
Anything west of Western is what I consider to be the starting grounds for the west side/northwest side. Anything before that is what's called the Near West Side, but I'm sure some people will debate this. As for the northwest side, I say the Logan Square area and anything directly west or north of that is the northwest side. Some people say Humboldt Park is the start of the northwest side, I just think that it is just the west side. North Ave. (the central street of Humboldt Park along with Division) is not far enough north in my opinion to be render Humboldt Park (or any other neighborhood along the street for that matter) the north(west) side. Anything on or around north ave, directly above downtown, I consider the Near North Side. I consider Armitage to be the boarder for anywhere that's considered north side or northwest side.

So IMO, I guess technically for me, the northwest side begins at the corner of Armitage and Western.
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