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View Poll Results: For whom will you vote for Mayor in 2019?
GARRY McCARTHY 18 26.09%
SUSANA MENDOZA 4 5.80%
TONI PRECKWINKLE 5 7.25%
PAUL VALLAS 12 17.39%
AMARA ENYIA 1 1.45%
GERY CHICO 2 2.90%
BILL DALEY 8 11.59%
LORI LIGHTFOOT 9 13.04%
DOROTHY BROWN 0 0%
WILLIE WILSON 3 4.35%
JA’MAL GREEN 1 1.45%
JERRY JOYCE 1 1.45%
LA SHAWN K. FORD 0 0%
BOB FIORETTI 2 2.90%
NEAL SALES-GRIFFIN 1 1.45%
JOHN KOZLAR 2 2.90%
Voters: 69. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-21-2019, 12:30 PM
 
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I voted for John Kozlar. I don't think he'll win and honestly think he's a little too "green" to be mayor but he is a smart guy, has lived in Chicago his whole life, graduated from University of Chicago with honors and has good moral standing with the the cajones stand up and call out all the politically corrupt people in Chicago.

If It comes down to Daley and Preckwinkle I'm gonna vote for Daley so he can pull as many federal funds into our state as possible even though I hate how much debt his brother left the city with.

I'm really gonna miss Rahm...
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Old 02-21-2019, 01:10 PM
 
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And you are apparently a "Trump Supporter" because you enjoy making up numbers like he does.

83.7% of votes cast for president in Chicago went to Hillary in 2016. Yes, that's still a very high percentage-- so why didn't you just use the real number instead of making up an even higher one?

I also must agree very strongly with the previous poster. You can't call everyone who voted for Hillary Clinton a "Hillary Supporter" given who she was running against. I'd say half or more of the people I know who voted for Hillary were "anyone but Trump" voters-- including people (some of them Republicans) who couldn't stand her but still knew she was the lesser of two evils.

The only statement that you're right on is that I am a Trump supporter.
I didn't say that 95% of Chicago voters voted for hillary, I said that 95% of hillary voters will be electing the new mayor. But judging by some of the comments on this thread it isn't going to matter because unless you city voters get rid of all the machine politicians, nothing good is going to happen. The only 2 honest folks running are Vallas and Lightfoot but I fear they won't make the cutoff.
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Old 02-21-2019, 01:26 PM
 
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The only 2 honest folks running are Vallas and Lightfoot
I'd love to see Vallas and Lightfoot in a runoff. I like both of them.

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Old 02-21-2019, 02:01 PM
 
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What is it that is so appealing to people about Preckwinkle that I'm not getting that has her polling so high? Is it just the public union lemmings throwing all of their weight behind her that enables her to poll so well despite very few real accomplishments to her name besides most punchable face in the mayoral race?
Preckwinkle has built a large coalition, consisting of younger blacks, white women and public sector employees. She is well-known, has had a huge TV and media presence and is funded by some big unions ( SEIU, AFSCME and CTU). If Daley can get the older blacks and the majority of the Hispanics to vote for him, he has a shot at winning the runoff.
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Old 02-21-2019, 03:17 PM
 
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Preckwinkle has built a large coalition, consisting of younger blacks, white women and public sector employees. She is well-known, has had a huge TV and media presence and is funded by some big unions ( SEIU, AFSCME and CTU). If Daley can get the older blacks and the majority of the Hispanics to vote for him, he has a shot at winning the runoff.
I put little stock in these polls. The 2016 election provides support for this. Vote for who you think is the best choice, not strategically.
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Old 02-21-2019, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Chicago, Tri-Taylor
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The only statement that you're right on is that I am a Trump supporter.
I didn't say that 95% of Chicago voters voted for hillary, I said that 95% of hillary voters will be electing the new mayor. But judging by some of the comments on this thread it isn't going to matter because unless you city voters get rid of all the machine politicians, nothing good is going to happen. The only 2 honest folks running are Vallas and Lightfoot but I fear they won't make the cutoff.
I think Taxwinkle will have some issues even with the Hillary voters. This isn't NYC or Boston. We don't have as many limousine liberals here. Sure, our liberals adorn themselves in many of their trappings, but I think they're more capitalistic and more for themselves overall than their counterparts in some other parts of the country.

That helps explain why we have too many 'hoods which remain 98% poor minority. They're liberal until it starts impacting the butter for their bread, and then they get pretty conservative.

I just think that Tax would be a terrible mayor for this City. She has a proven track record of taxation and the avid and focused public employee union support of her campaign should scare the hell out of anyone. So maybe this is wishful thinking, but I hope not.
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Old 02-21-2019, 04:36 PM
 
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I think Taxwinkle will have some issues even with the Hillary voters. This isn't NYC or Boston. We don't have as many limousine liberals here. Sure, our liberals adorn themselves in many of their trappings, but I think they're more capitalistic and more for themselves overall than their counterparts in some other parts of the country.

That helps explain why we have too many 'hoods which remain 98% poor minority. They're liberal until it starts impacting the butter for their bread, and then they get pretty conservative.

I just think that Tax would be a terrible mayor for this City. She has a proven track record of taxation and the avid and focused public employee union support of her campaign should scare the hell out of anyone. So maybe this is wishful thinking, but I hope not.

Well said !
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Old 02-22-2019, 08:04 AM
 
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What I recently realized is that 95 % of the people voting for mayor are hillary supporters. A very scary thought.

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The only statement that you're right on is that I am a Trump supporter.
I didn't say that 95% of Chicago voters voted for hillary, I said that 95% of hillary voters will be electing the new mayor.
You realize everyone can read your previous posts, right? That said, your response doesn't seem to clarify anything with respect to Skylark's number.

I hope you also realize that you're attempting to do to us exactly what Trump is doing to you. Perhaps you agree with him on some things anyway. I hope for your own sake that you do see when he is lying to you and changing his story from the previous iteration of a statement he made. He has literally publicly lied thousands of times in just over two years in office, not even the counting the lies during the election, or prior to ever running for office (e.g. "I have guys looking into this in Hawaii and you wouldn't believe what they're finding!" - whatever happened to those "guys"?) The difference is, we know what's going on.

Gaslighting

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...ns-gaslighting

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...n-relationship

https://www.britannica.com/topic/gaslighting

https://www.teenvogue.com/story/dona...ghting-america (Yes -Teen Vogue)

https://slate.com/human-interest/201...-politics.html

https://www.theguardian.com/science/...chanisms-trump

https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...rm=Gaslighting

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...s-how-fight-it

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/1445050002/

https://www.amazon.com/Gaslighting-A.../dp/0062748009 (this book was written by Republican political strategist Amanda Carpenter)
https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...america-216554

https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...survive-2017-3

Anyway, I agree with you about Vallas and Lightfoot (I like Kozlar too, but he likely has no chance).
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Old 02-22-2019, 08:21 AM
 
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You realize everyone can read your previous posts, right? That said, your response doesn't seem to clarify anything with respect to Skylark's number.

I hope you also realize that you're attempting to do to us exactly what Trump is doing to you. Perhaps you agree with him on some things anyway. I hope for your own sake that you do see when he is lying to you and changing his story from the previous iteration of a statement he made. He has literally publicly lied thousands of times in just over two years in office, not even the counting the lies during the election, or prior to ever running for office (e.g. "I have guys looking into this in Hawaii and you wouldn't believe what they're finding!" - whatever happened to those "guys"?) The difference is, we know what's going on.

Gaslighting

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...ns-gaslighting

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...n-relationship

https://www.britannica.com/topic/gaslighting

https://www.teenvogue.com/story/dona...ghting-america (Yes -Teen Vogue)

https://slate.com/human-interest/201...-politics.html

https://www.theguardian.com/science/...chanisms-trump

https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...rm=Gaslighting

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...s-how-fight-it

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/1445050002/

https://www.amazon.com/Gaslighting-A.../dp/0062748009 (this book was written by Republican political strategist Amanda Carpenter)
https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...america-216554

https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...survive-2017-3

Anyway, I agree with you about Vallas and Lightfoot (I like Kozlar too, but he likely has no chance).

I've been around for over 7 decades, Trump isn't influencing my thoughts in anyway. I have been lied too by politicians since the 40's and it will continue until I'm pushing up daisies. There has not been one President that has been truthful ( Harry Truman comes the closest) and there won't be one that is. When you start believing what politicians tell you, instead of thinking and reasoning for yourself, you become a subject rather than a free individual. It's fun to be part of the crowd but don't let that mentality govern you. Believe it or not, the country will survive Trump in spite of all the hate towards him. Be careful what you wish for !
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Old 02-22-2019, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Chicago, Tri-Taylor
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Well said !
Everything I read predicting a Preckwinkle victory relies on the fact that she has the progressive white vote in the bag. But the '16 Democratic primary results show that the affluent white wards (Lakefront), voted for Hillary over Bernie in the 2016 primary. Where the progressive Bernie did well was in Hispanic and working class white wards. In other words, among disaffected voters who wanted change.

https://www.chicagomag.com/city-life...nders-clinton/

So what this may mean for purposes of our discussion is that the socially progressive white voters who are on the moderate side of the scale economically - and there are probably a lot more than people think - will be put off by the impression of Preckwinkle as a tax and spender and won't vote for her. Conservative whites will be pretty diluted with McCarthy, Vallas, and Chico and, sadly, probably Daley. I think Hispanics will lean heavily towards Mendoza, and to a lesser extent Chico.

That leaves Preckwinkle relying on the African American vote, which is split up between Wilson, Lightfoot, and Enyia, and Ford, and doesn't get revved up over "progressive" politics. African-American voters overwhelmingly chose Hillary over Bernie in 2016 after all. I also think she'll lose some of that vote due to the soda tax. She will, however, definitely clean up among teachers and other non-police/fire City workers, though how many votes is that?

So does she really have enough to carry her to the runoff at the end of the day? I guess we'll see next week!
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