06-23-2020, 02:32 PM
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Good god, do not get a cat please, thank you.
You want a cat because your therapist said to? A cat and any pet, is not some therapy toy for you, to toss when done, which is will what happen. A cat and pets are the pet's life long commitment to them, so for a cat, looking at 13+ years easily, with potential expenses through for medical issues.
06-23-2020, 02:41 PM
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Honor your original agreement.
06-23-2020, 02:42 PM
Location: Northern California
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Good god, do not get a cat please, thank you.
You want a cat because your therapist said to? A cat and any pet, is not some therapy toy for you, to toss when done, which is will what happen. A cat and pets are the pet's life long commitment to them, so for a cat, looking at 13+ years easily, with potential expenses through for medical issues.
Thank you. ITA.
06-23-2020, 04:44 PM
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I'm just a regular guy with a regular job who happens to own two homes. I rent out the other in order to help pay the bills on the property. I saw a paper loss of around $800 last year on it. Obviously I am earning equity in the property which is what keeps me in the business. Soon it will turn positive in cash flow but that will be another year or more.
I'm certainly not powerful, rather powerless. I am not special, but neither are renters. The only power I have is to have control over what goes on inside the properties I own, within legal bounds obviously.
I don't know why that's a hard concept to grasp. If I say no cats, then no cats, period. I don't need excuses and I certainly shouldn't have to justify that to my renter. If the OP really needs a therapy cat that bad they can move forward with getting the ESA to certify one. Even then, I think it's a ****ty situation for any renter to do that to their landlord because at the end of the day it's their property and they should have control over what goes on with it.
You act like us landlords are rich, out of touch, and heartless. None of that is true. We are people just the same as you and our financial situations aren't always hunky dory. I know many landlords struggling to afford mortgages because of the eviction ban. Many are paying two or more mortgages out of pocket. That's not possible to sustain for MANY!
Then this lady is evil and selfish as i have said many times now. Its nothing to her if this guy gets a cat he needs. Why must I repeat it so often. Not hard to understand
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06-23-2020, 08:19 PM
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Then this lady is evil and selfish as i have said many times now. Its nothing to her if this guy gets a cat he needs. Why must I repeat it so often. Not hard to understand
Robert, the OP AGREED to not have a cat as a condition of his or her lease, and made this agreement prior to renting. It is the OP that wants to change the agreement after the fact, not the landlord. The OP's therapist may have suggested that they "get a cat", probably because the OP told the therapist they were lonely, and liked cats. But that's a long way from needing an "emotional support animal". Why would you side with the person who wants to break an agreement vs. someone who is merely sticking to what was agreed upon, regardless of the basis of the agreement? Don't people honor their commitments anymore? And if the OP is so tight on funds that moving is prohibitive, the LAST thing they need to do is take on responsibility for a pet, vet bills are friggin' expensive - my guess is that I spend at least two grand a year each for my two 70 lb. dogs, between food, toys, treats, vet bills, boarding, heartworm and flea preventative, etc.. Repeating over and over that pocket lint is the same thing as cotton candy doesn't make it taste any sweeter.
Simply put, if the OP really wants a cat, then they should do the right thing - move to a unit where cats are allowed, and as has been stated above, make absolutely sure they are in it for the long haul, cats can be a 17 year commitment Adopting an older cat would probably be the best thing to do, instead of a kitten, BTW. Until then, the OP can volunteer in a shelter, most are in need of folks to socialize and take care of the animals in their care, or work as a pet-sitter for folks (in their home) while they go on vacation, or even go to school to become a Veterinary Technician, and then they'll have all the animal contact they can handle, LOL.
06-23-2020, 08:29 PM
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Robert, the OP AGREED to not have a cat as a condition of his or her lease, and made this agreement prior to renting. It is the OP that wants to change the agreement after the fact, not the landlord. The OP's therapist may have suggested that they "get a cat", probably because the OP told the therapist they were lonely, and liked cats. But that's a long way from needing an "emotional support animal". Why would you side with the person who wants to break an agreement vs. someone who is merely sticking to what was agreed upon, regardless of the basis of the agreement? Don't people honor their commitments anymore? And if the OP is so tight on funds that moving is prohibitive, the LAST thing they need to do is take on responsibility for a pet, vet bills are friggin' expensive - my guess is that I spend at least two grand a year each for my two 70 lb. dogs, between food, toys, treats, vet bills, boarding, heartworm and flea preventative, etc.. Repeating over and over that pocket lint is the same thing as cotton candy doesn't make it taste any sweeter.
Simply put, if the OP really wants a cat, then they should do the right thing - move to a unit where cats are allowed, and as has been stated above, make absolutely sure they are in it for the long haul, cats can be a 17 year commitment Adopting an older cat would probably be the best thing to do, instead of a kitten, BTW. Until then, the OP can volunteer in a shelter, most are in need of folks to socialize and take care of the animals in their care, or work as a pet-sitter for folks (in their home) while they go on vacation, or even go to school to become a Veterinary Technician, and then they'll have all the animal contact they can handle, LOL.
Hopefully he will be able to do something like that then. It would be great if he could
06-23-2020, 08:56 PM
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I dont know what i'd do if i were a landlord, and my building which i own, now the renter has more rights than me. especially on important issues like having a pet or not.
For example, if i the landlord am allergic to a cat, and i will now suffer whenever i enter the apartment for whatever reason - could be i need to fix the sink, or check something legitimate.
Then if i dont want my renters to have pets because some of them do not take care of them and they let the cat do damage that cats just do sometimes naturally (like their need to scratch, and they pee on the floor for various reasons (((of which i blame the owner)). so now my building is suffering because the person brings in a pet.
Even if they get that paper that allows them to have an emotional therapy pet, i still have to face the reality that the cat might pee on the floor, scratch up the wall/door, bring allergies to me so i am now sneezing with horrible red itchy eyes (i have a cat allergy and its painfully itchy).
Does not seem fair to the landlord.
06-23-2020, 09:14 PM
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I dont know what i'd do if i were a landlord, and my building which i own, now the renter has more rights than me. especially on important issues like having a pet or not.
For example, if i the landlord am allergic to a cat, and i will now suffer whenever i enter the apartment for whatever reason - could be i need to fix the sink, or check something legitimate.
Then if i dont want my renters to have pets because some of them do not take care of them and they let the cat do damage that cats just do sometimes naturally (like their need to scratch, and they pee on the floor for various reasons (((of which i blame the owner)). so now my building is suffering because the person brings in a pet.
Even if they get that paper that allows them to have an emotional therapy pet, i still have to face the reality that the cat might pee on the floor, scratch up the wall/door, bring allergies to me so i am now sneezing with horrible red itchy eyes (i have a cat allergy and its painfully itchy).
Does not seem fair to the landlord.
If you are going to worry about a cat then omg the worrying over a human animal would be 100 times worse!
06-23-2020, 09:38 PM
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If you are going to worry about a cat then omg the worrying over a human animal would be 100 times worse!
Actually, if i were the landlord, i'd be concerned about my investment in my property, and now, the renter has more rights than me.
I know why landlords say NO PETS. because even if the pet owner swears up and down on their mothers eyes and says their cat NEVER does damage,, beleive me,, they will.. either by a surprise, accident, or something.
and yes, if you mean i'd have hard time living with another human being, you are right.. but i've had people living with me and i really dont want to have to put up with them and their humanity lol... yep.
I cant take it!
06-23-2020, 09:45 PM
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I will not even move into Heaven if the sign on the door said No Animals Allowed, but I believe GOD loves animals.
I would move if I were you op. My family and I moved twenty times with cats and dogs and we never had a problem finding a place. I looked at ads in my area and on craigslist and saw a few that accepted cats. There were even cat Folks I knew that had cat allergies but took meds. Of course allergy tests go by how high your numbers are from 1-13 and it would depend on how high someone ranked. I just found out I scored 11 for a horse allergy, which is high and I love them, so I will take the meds around them. I also had birds, cats, and dogs and just found out I was allergic to them too all this time, yet never felt anything, because I scored only a three. I think some birds make just as good therapy pets as cats and dogs. My pet pigeon I raised from a baby use to play with me everyday and made me very happy also. If you don't want to move, look for a bird that makes you happy. What kind of a landlord wouldn't even let you have a pet bird?
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Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)