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Old 04-24-2021, 12:06 PM
 
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I read that today, Apr. 24, is the 79th birthday of Richard M. Daley, who was Mayor of Chicago from 1989 to 2011.

During his tenure as mayor, his family members, friends, and political allies disproportionately benefitted from city contracts.

When King Richard Daley II took office, Chicago had annual budget surpluses, manageable debt, and flush pension funds. By the time of his long overdue departure, the city had massive structural deficits.

Daley temporarily reduced budget shortfalls by leasing and selling public assets to private corporations. But, this practice removed future sources of revenue to Chicago. The most notorious and hated of these 'leases' is the 75 year parking meter deal in 2008.

I was not a fan of Daley's successor, Rahm 'Mayor 1%' Emanuel, but Rahmbo correctly pointed out that Richie left Chicago with a deficit of over $1 billion when the underfunded pension plans were included.

Richie overstayed his welcome, and his fiscal damage to Chicago is his true legacy.

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Old 04-24-2021, 06:54 PM
 
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It was Machine politics.... It is Chicago. It was a good era for downtown and gentrifying areas. The Projects came down and more blight in hoods got removed. Street-sweeping service continued unlike a major city in my state of PA... big mistake. Millennium Park got built and despite cost and paronage etc .... It proved to be a huge success. Much in place to boost Chicago's tourism begun.

Good, bad and ugly as they say. Ralm also. Unlucky current mayor had 2020 to deal with ... Ralm timed it good for his end as mayor.

As I always say .... whether it is SF, LA , SEA, CHI, NYC etc. Each is mocked and politically demonized and blamed. You take the good and bad OR YOU TAKE your luggage and leave the baggage at the door and close a chapter.

I read that this is a great time to sell and choose your ne locale. Just you might enter their market in a bidding war in buying in thehot markets .....
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Old 04-25-2021, 04:17 PM
 
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How is it that Chicago arrests a kid tagging the local bridge, but lets Little Richard off scot-free in unlawfully destroying millions of dollars of Chicago municipal property (Meigs Field) in the middle of the night with bulldozers?
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Old 04-25-2021, 05:06 PM
 
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How is it that Chicago arrests a kid tagging the local bridge, but lets Little Richard off scot-free in unlawfully destroying millions of dollars of Chicago municipal property (Meigs Field) in the middle of the night with bulldozers?
I thought it was extreme then.... still looking back and looking into history. Meigs Field was only used by a few elite people, it was NOT in the Burnham Plan to rebuild Chicago's lakefront. It reasons.... despite everything. Post-Meigs it is more part of the Burnham Plan now then then... and is fulfilling its original purpose much much more.

Now I do not see it as a loss. Years have passed and we moved on. Just seems there were others who were seeking Meigs closing for years. Different deals or bribes even .... for all we know? Kept it open.

http://livinghistoryofillinois.com/p...cago,%20IL.pdf

From the link.

- Northerly Island owned by the Chicago Park District, is the only structure to be built and based on Daniel Burnhan's 1909 Plan of Chicago. The island was to be populated by trees and grass for the public enjoyment of all. However, drafted less then 6-yrs after the Wright brothers' historic flight, the 1909 plan did NOT envision any airports for Chicago.

Timeline facts from the link.

- In 1972, Mayor Richard Daley proposed Meigs' CLOSURE but he backed down when threatened with the loss of FAA funding.

- In 1980 Mayor Byrne promised Meigs' CLOSURE for the 1992 World's Fair if the City was chosen as the host city..... we know it was not.

- In 1992, the City Department of Aviation published its intent to close the airport in its annual report.

- In 1994, Mayor Richard M. Daley announced plans to close the airport and build a park in its place on Northerly Island.

- In Sept of 1996, when the Park District & Dept of Aviation closed Meigs. Within 2-months, the State Legislature voted to reopen the airport under state control.

- Jan 1997, Gov. Edgar & Mayor Daley struck a bargain: Meigs would reopen in 5-yrs, with the City retaining control of the airport.

- Meigs reopened in Feb of 1997.

- In 2001, a compromise was reached between Chicago, the State of IL, and others to keep the airport open for the next 25-yrs. However, the federal legislation component of the deal DID NOT PASS the US Senate.

^^^ TIDBIT on the 2001 US Senate... January 20, 2001: Dick Cheney became Vice President, and the Republicans take control of the Senate with his tie breaking vote. May 24, 2001: Senator Jim Jeffords , previously a Republican, declared himself an independent and announced he would join the Democratic caucus, giving the Democrats majority control, effective June 6, 2001.

- On March 31, 2003 in the early morning hours, the city bulldozed, with Chicago Police escort, the runway at Meigs Field.

- The FAA fined the city $33,000 for closing an airport with a charted instrument approach without giving the required 30-day notice. This was the Max fine the law allowed at the time.

- On Sept 17, 2006, the city dropped all legal appeals and agreed to pay the $33,000 fine as well as REPAY the $1-mil in FAA Airport Improvement Program funds that it used to destroy the airfield and build Northerly Island Park.


Neat OTHER BOLD historic plan for Northerly Island. LOOKED AWESOME and Burnham would have approved.

Title: The Burnham Plan Centennial .... Drawing in link 2009.

The Lakefront | The Burnham Plan Centennial

More on it with this link.

http://burnhamplan100.lib.uchicago.e...ennial_review/

- In what other city could a Plan Engage -- 300 Partner organizations and thousands of people?
- perhaps we should not be surprised that the Centennial of the Burnham and Bennett 1909 Plan of Chicago had such a resonance.

Back to Political Rhetoric.....

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Old 04-25-2021, 10:05 PM
 
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I thought it was extreme then.... still looking back and looking into history. Meigs Field was only used by a few elite people, it was NOT in the Burnham Plan to rebuild Chicago's lakefront. It reasons.... despite everything. Post-Meigs it is more part of the Burnham Plan now then then... and is fulfilling its original purpose much much more.

Now I do not see it as a loss. Years have passed and we moved on. Just seems there were others who were seeking Meigs closing for years. Different deals or bribes even .... for all we know? Kept it open.

http://livinghistoryofillinois.com/p...cago,%20IL.pdf

From the link.

- Northerly Island owned by the Chicago Park District, is the only structure to be built and based on Daniel Burnhan's 1909 Plan of Chicago. The island was to be populated by trees and grass for the public enjoyment of all. However, drafted less then 6-yrs after the Wright brothers' historic flight, the 1909 plan did NOT envision any airports for Chicago.

Timeline facts from the link.

- In 1972, Mayor Richard Daley proposed Meigs' CLOSURE but he backed down when threatened with the loss of FAA funding.

- In 1980 Mayor Byrne promised Meigs' CLOSURE for the 1992 World's Fair if the City was chosen as the host city..... we know it was not.

- In 1992, the City Department of Aviation published its intent to close the airport in its annual report.

- In 1994, Mayor Richard M. Daley announced plans to close the airport and build a park in its place on Northerly Island.

- In Sept of 1996, when the Park District & Dept of Aviation closed Meigs. Within 2-months, the State Legislature voted to reopen the airport under state control.

- Jan 1997, Gov. Edgar & Mayor Daley struck a bargain: Meigs would reopen in 5-yrs, with the City retaining control of the airport.

- Meigs reopened in Feb of 1997.

- In 2001, a compromise was reached between Chicago, the State of IL, and others to keep the airport open for the next 25-yrs. However, the federal legislation component of the deal DID NOT PASS the US Senate.

^^^ TIDBIT on the 2001 US Senate... January 20, 2001: Dick Cheney became Vice President, and the Republicans take control of the Senate with his tie breaking vote. May 24, 2001: Senator Jim Jeffords , previously a Republican, declared himself an independent and announced he would join the Democratic caucus, giving the Democrats majority control, effective June 6, 2001.

- On March 31, 2003 in the early morning hours, the city bulldozed, with Chicago Police escort, the runway at Meigs Field.

- The FAA fined the city $33,000 for closing an airport with a charted instrument approach without giving the required 30-day notice. This was the Max fine the law allowed at the time.

- On Sept 17, 2006, the city dropped all legal appeals and agreed to pay the $33,000 fine as well as REPAY the $1-mil in FAA Airport Improvement Program funds that it used to destroy the airfield and build Northerly Island Park.


Neat OTHER BOLD historic plan for Northerly Island. LOOKED AWESOME and Burnham would have approved.

Title: The Burnham Plan Centennial .... Drawing in link 2009.

The Lakefront | The Burnham Plan Centennial

More on it with this link.

Centennial Year in Review | The Burnham Plan Centennial

- In what other city could a Plan Engage -- 300 Partner organizations and thousands of people?
- perhaps we should not be surprised that the Centennial of the Burnham and Bennett 1909 Plan of Chicago had such a resonance.

Back to Political Rhetoric.....
Don't forget about the current State Street landscaping when the pedestrian mall was removed! The design, especially the subway entrances, evokes Paris. This project, along with the general rehabilitation of The Loop and Michigan Avenue, contributed to the Daley Tourist Boom. The improvements probably impressed some tourists to move to or relocate their companies to (or remain in) Chicago(land).
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Old 04-25-2021, 10:56 PM
 
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I thought it was extreme then.... still looking back and looking into history. Meigs Field was only used by a few elite people, it was NOT in the Burnham Plan to rebuild Chicago's lakefront. It reasons.... despite everything. Post-Meigs it is more part of the Burnham Plan now then then... and is fulfilling its original purpose much much more.

Now I do not see it as a loss. Years have passed and we moved on. Just seems there were others who were seeking Meigs closing for years. Different deals or bribes even .... for all we know? Kept it open.

http://livinghistoryofillinois.com/p...cago,%20IL.pdf

From the link.

- Northerly Island owned by the Chicago Park District, is the only structure to be built and based on Daniel Burnhan's 1909 Plan of Chicago. The island was to be populated by trees and grass for the public enjoyment of all. However, drafted less then 6-yrs after the Wright brothers' historic flight, the 1909 plan did NOT envision any airports for Chicago.

Timeline facts from the link.

- In 1972, Mayor Richard Daley proposed Meigs' CLOSURE but he backed down when threatened with the loss of FAA funding.

- In 1980 Mayor Byrne promised Meigs' CLOSURE for the 1992 World's Fair if the City was chosen as the host city..... we know it was not.

- In 1992, the City Department of Aviation published its intent to close the airport in its annual report.

- In 1994, Mayor Richard M. Daley announced plans to close the airport and build a park in its place on Northerly Island.

- In Sept of 1996, when the Park District & Dept of Aviation closed Meigs. Within 2-months, the State Legislature voted to reopen the airport under state control.

- Jan 1997, Gov. Edgar & Mayor Daley struck a bargain: Meigs would reopen in 5-yrs, with the City retaining control of the airport.

- Meigs reopened in Feb of 1997.

- In 2001, a compromise was reached between Chicago, the State of IL, and others to keep the airport open for the next 25-yrs. However, the federal legislation component of the deal DID NOT PASS the US Senate.

^^^ TIDBIT on the 2001 US Senate... January 20, 2001: Dick Cheney became Vice President, and the Republicans take control of the Senate with his tie breaking vote. May 24, 2001: Senator Jim Jeffords , previously a Republican, declared himself an independent and announced he would join the Democratic caucus, giving the Democrats majority control, effective June 6, 2001.

- On March 31, 2003 in the early morning hours, the city bulldozed, with Chicago Police escort, the runway at Meigs Field.

- The FAA fined the city $33,000 for closing an airport with a charted instrument approach without giving the required 30-day notice. This was the Max fine the law allowed at the time.

- On Sept 17, 2006, the city dropped all legal appeals and agreed to pay the $33,000 fine as well as REPAY the $1-mil in FAA Airport Improvement Program funds that it used to destroy the airfield and build Northerly Island Park.


Neat OTHER BOLD historic plan for Northerly Island. LOOKED AWESOME and Burnham would have approved.

Title: The Burnham Plan Centennial .... Drawing in link 2009.

The Lakefront | The Burnham Plan Centennial

More on it with this link.

Centennial Year in Review | The Burnham Plan Centennial

- In what other city could a Plan Engage -- 300 Partner organizations and thousands of people?
- perhaps we should not be surprised that the Centennial of the Burnham and Bennett 1909 Plan of Chicago had such a resonance.

Back to Political Rhetoric.....
Good research and history on Meigs and the Lakefront. Personally, I didn't have a dog in the hunt then or now regarding Meigs, my point was that the Mayor is not allowed to arbitrarily destroy such a large portion of municipal property on his own; if I remember correctly, closing down Meigs was the responsibility of the City Council (and maybe the state legislature, IDK), and IMHO Daley should have been held accountable for overstepping his authority and having it bulldozed in the middle of the night. Any idea why he wasn't?

While on that page, anybody got the inside scoop as to how his (son? nephew?) got off light for killing the kid in Michigan? And why is it "rhetoric" to call out our leaders when they misbehave? Personally, I think that if Harold hadn't had heart disease, Richie would never have gotten elected, and the city probably would have been better off for it. But that's not a "political" opinion, it's a "historical" one. To tell you the truth, I kind of miss Jane (minus her "moving into Cabrini" stunt). It was Daley's "entitlement" to the mayoral position that got Harold elected in '83, and ended Byrne's political career.

Also, wasn't it during Daley's tenure that Vince Lane got caught with his hand in the Projects cookie jar, and the CHA was taken over by the Feds? I had a friend on the CHA police force that was created after the Feds took it over for about five years. He said that Daley lied his pants off after the "shootout" at (Robert Taylor Homes?), blaming the CHA force for indiscriminately shooting at the building face. My buddy was on site (laying on top of a resident to protect her in front of the building) and had a great view of what was going on. Daley used that incident to take back control of the projects, dismantling their police department and not allowing the CHA officers to apply for CPD positions. I know that my friend wouldn't have tinkled on Daley had he found him on fire, and his opinion is good enough for me.

Bottom line, Chicago may never have a "beloved" mayor again, it's simply too deep in debt, divided by social issues, and wracked by violence. Anybody who takes that job is going to be hated by at least half the population. I had great hopes for Beetlejuice before she was elected, but no more.
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Old 04-28-2021, 10:27 AM
 
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People talk about Daley, but at the same time Governor Paul Powel died and hundreds of thousands in clean cash was found in his office.
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Old 04-28-2021, 10:55 AM
 
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Paul Powell was Secretary of State, not a governor.
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Old 04-30-2021, 06:03 AM
 
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Paul Powell was Secretary of State, not a governor.
And, that cash was found in shoeboxes in his bedroom closet, if I remember correctly. When it comes to politicians committing crime in Illinois, it's hard to tell the players without a scorecard.

To the thread, a Richie Daley nephew and Chicago Alderman (Patrick Thompson Daley) was just indicted for some banking hanky-panky related to the failure of Washington Savings, I think. Hey, it restores your faith that kids nowadays aren't neglecting lifelong family traditions after all...
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Old 04-30-2021, 04:06 PM
 
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I read that today, Apr. 24, is the 79th birthday of Richard M. Daley, who was Mayor of Chicago from 1989 to 2011.

During his tenure as mayor, his family members, friends, and political allies disproportionately benefitted from city contracts.

When King Richard Daley II took office, Chicago had annual budget surpluses, manageable debt, and flush pension funds. By the time of his long overdue departure, the city had massive structural deficits.

Daley temporarily reduced budget shortfalls by leasing and selling public assets to private corporations. But, this practice removed future sources of revenue to Chicago. The most notorious and hated of these 'leases' is the 75 year parking meter deal in 2008.

I was not a fan of Daley's successor, Rahm 'Mayor 1%' Emanuel, but Rahmbo correctly pointed out that Richie left Chicago with a deficit of over $1 billion when the underfunded pension plans were included.

Richie overstayed his welcome, and his fiscal damage to Chicago is his true legacy.
Well, I don't know if you can "overstay" if voters keep voting you in each election cycle by an overwhelming margin. Daley benefitted from the great 1990s economy which jumpstarted gentrification in many areas and from an ability to understand what to focus on in the pre-woke world in which he ruled. He became something of a mascot to Chicagoans and was truly beloved while in power but hated in retrospect. Kind of like a political version of Sammy Sosa.
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