Detention for Obama (Chicago, Winchester, Bush: felony, high schools, college)

[Gelasia]

Originally Posted by Avengerfire

How do you know the school he attends specifically has a rule against using the term dumb ass?

Like I said before, the word "ass" is allowed on public T.V. and Radio now by the F.C.C. as long as it is not used in a sexual manner.

This case should be fairly easy to win.

Free Speech.

I dont know but if he is any grade between k-12 its a pretty safe bet.
This is the problem with todays youth. A bunch of sissys that dont want to own up and take responsibility. They just want to ***** and moan about everything. How else do you think Obama got elected? The same kids that can vote now voted for him

[Avengerfire]

Originally Posted by Mister Mappy

I didn't realize schools were now regulated by the FCC. As someone else pointed out, a school is a bit different than TV. I'm sure the teacher wasn't mad that he insulted Obama, but used "dumb ass" I'm sure you would've alos got detention if you called a different political figure, celebrity, another student, or a teacher a dumb ass. It's probably not considered appropriate language for school.

Well the F.C.C. allows usage of the word ass as free speech since it can be spoken on the public airways now in ways it could not before. Therefore the 1st amendment covers the OP's usage of the word ass. It obviously is no longer considered vulgar to say in public (except when used in a sexual manner.)

If the U.S. Supreme court wants to overrule the F.C.C. let them try to do so. If I was a lawyer, I would go to the Supreme Court against usage of the word ass on the public airwaves. If the court judges against the argument against the word ass obviously the OP will win his case against the school. If it does not, ass will be removed from the free speech lexicon.

If ass was considered a vulgar word legally to use in public why does this site not censor the use of it? If I type in terms such as f*** or p**** they are censored.

That should be your first clue that this case is easily won.

[Mister Mappy]

The thing is this is school. You might be able to say "dumb ass", and "*****" on TV or on the radio, but most K-12 schools would consider that inappropriate language to use in a classroom setting. There's better ways to voice your frustration with current political leaders in class, not to mention it just makes you sound dumb.


AAACK there's censorship on CD! THIS IS WRONG!!!!!! I want to say B.ITCH!!!!!!!

[thePR]

I think you're getting a bad deal and should fight it. Get your parents to go in and say that they won't allow them to do this or get a lawyer.

[Avengerfire]

"You commie, homo-loving sons of guns!"

Sean Penn
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Free Speech

(However inappropriate and stupid the top statement was-it is still free speech...)

But if Charlton Heston or a number of other people said this to the Academy-libs would be all over his ass (no pun intended.) Do people not see the double standard now?

[RichMonk]

Not really a fair analogy there Avenger. The Academy is famously liberal. Again you continue to conflate the use of bad language with political criticism. If you are just trying to drive a wedge here you are sorta successful.

How about this...try saying something negative about Bush at Crawford High School. You might not even need to curse to get at least a stern talking to or even, OH MY GOSH!, a detention.

EDIT: kinda side note...but i remember getting a detention for airing my criticism of my computer technology teacher...and to this day i still think she is a dumb *****. Being mean does not make up for being stupid! [/rant]

[UnderTheLiveOaks]

Once again, Avenger, we all know that free speech is a good thing, but assuming the kid's in high school, precedent isn't in his favor.

It's been established that free speech doesn't apply, in its truest form, in schools. Sucks, but there it is. Stage a march. Get all Al Sharpton on it. Unlikely to change much.

[Avengerfire]

Originally Posted by RichMonk

...How about this...try saying something negative about Bush at Crawford High School. You might not even need to curse to get at least a stern talking to or even, OH MY GOSH!, a detention...

If that actually happened the ACLU would be all over it.

Lets see if what the OP is going through gets their attention.

People have been speaking vulgar slander (much worse than calling him a dumb ass) against Bush for YEARS in Colleges and High Schools. I have never heard of anyone getting punished for it.

Perhaps you can find evidence that people have been ?

[Attrill]

This isn't a slam on West lawn Kid, but God save this country if every student who feels they have been given detention unfairly takes it to court.

[Avengerfire]

Originally Posted by Attrill

This isn't a slam on West lawn Kid, but God save this country if every student who feels they have been given detention unfairly takes it to court.

Ever hear of Rob Sherman and his brainwashed/puppet kid?

http://robsherman.com/

"Here's a lightly-edited narrative of what sparked his suit as taken from his legal complaint. (.pdf)

When [Sherman's 10th-grade daughter] Dawn attempted, in December of 2008, to enroll in driver’s education, she was informed by school administrators that she would have to pay a fee of $350...

Rob Sherman contacted [the Buffalo Grove High School administration] to inquire as to what the fee money was used for....[Officials told him] that approximately $150 of the fee was to cover expenses such as the cost of cars, car maintenance, gas, oil and insurance. The other $200 of the fee was to offset staffing costs, such as teacher salaries and benefits....

Sherman had no problem paying the “Lab fee” (Rob Sherman’s term for it) of $150, but the policy of charging public school students a fee for staffing costs seemed to be inconsistent with Article X, Section 1, of the Illinois Constitution, which states, in pertinent part, “Education in public schools through the secondary level shall be free."

[School officials told him] that the Illinois School Code allows a Driver’s Ed fee of $50 (see 105 ILCS 5/27-23)...[and that the district] had applied to the State Board and the General Assembly for three waivers, over the past twelve years, to raise the driver’s ed fee first to $250, then to increase it to $350."

http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news...-a-prayer.html


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