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Old 03-30-2009, 03:39 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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i guess ocean coasts really do matter. there aren't any successful landlocked nations, are there?
Switzerland is doing quite well. So are Austria and the Czech Republic.
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Old 03-30-2009, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Marion, IA
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No Chicago. DOes that mean we wouldn't have Obama as president? I like it!

I sure do enjoy visiting Chitown, but it would be a small price to pay!
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Old 03-30-2009, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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There is no Midwest without a Chicago; or more accurately, there is no Chicago without the agricultural might of the Midwest. All the agricultural products have to be processed and shipped out of somewhere, and all that agrigiz has to transpire somewhere, and all of the supporting industries (legal, financial, insurance, etc.) will spring up around where it all takes place. And while Chicago likes to think it's removed from its more hands-in-the-dirt rural Midwest counterparts, the fact is much of our strength still derives from the huge amount of agribiz conducted here -- more so than in any other city on Earth.

It's inevitable that these functions would consolidate somewhere. That "somewhere" is Chicago, and that was not luck nor was it accidental. It took deliberate planning and civil engineering to make Chicago what it is; particularly, digging a canal to connect the Great Lakes to the interior river waterway system. That's what made Chicago the logical transhipment point for the Midwest's agricultural goods to much of the rest of the country.
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Old 03-30-2009, 06:34 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Drover's right boys and girls.

I never understood Chicago people who distanced themselves from Illinois and the Midwest, Hell, I'm proud to be an Illinoisan and a Midwesterner.
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Old 03-30-2009, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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Reps for Drover. Cheers.
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Old 03-30-2009, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Ok can this thread be closed now?
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Old 03-31-2009, 01:56 PM
 
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I totally agree with and Drover and Irishtom.

I agree that I think we can close this.
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Old 03-31-2009, 01:58 PM
 
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Chicago without yuppies and world-class cultural institutions is already very "Milwaukee-ish".

chicago with out yuppies would be heaven :P :P

Last edited by ChiMack; 03-31-2009 at 02:24 PM..
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Old 04-03-2009, 02:48 PM
 
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someone said they think chicago might have been the biggest city if the fire didn't happen but i disagree. NYC was already so much bigger.
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Old 04-03-2009, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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someone said they think chicago might have been the biggest city if the fire didn't happen but i disagree. NYC was already so much bigger.
Also, back in the days before trans-Atlantic flights, NY was the closest port to Europe and new immigrants. I can't imagine too many alternate universe where Chicago would have grown larger than NYC.
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