Protest the Banks: Downtown Rally October 27th (Chicago, Time: credit, loan)

[Avengerfire]

Originally Posted by skipcromer

That is all assuming you are a believer of the slippery slope fallacy.

Of course there is a reason it is a fallacy...

Please enlighten the forum.

[j33]

Not to mention isn't socialism more of an economic system rather than a political system (see Scandinavia - economically socialist, politically democratic).

[j33]

Originally Posted by Avengerfire

So while most socialists will never proclaim themselves to be communists they are deep down inside communists who aspire that their sick ideas gain hold in a nation and socialism morphs into communism. Socialism is the facade and vehicle for what communists wish to accomplish.
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I am friends with more than a few socialists who would take strong issue with the notion they are communists.

While it is completely reasonable to disagree with various economic and political theories (and I acknowledge I am much more liberal than you are), let's try to keep them straight.

[Avengerfire]

Originally Posted by j33

Not to mention isn't socialism more of an economic system rather than a political system (see Scandinavia - economically socialist, politically democratic).

The social democrats main goal is to institute socialism by integrating it into a capitalistic society gradually. The completion of their end goal does not happen overnight. It is called the "Third Way."

[j33]

Yes, the end goal of those who are socialists would be to advance socialism rather than capitalism. However, let's not confuse either with democracy.

[Avengerfire]

Originally Posted by j33

I am friends with more than a few socialists who would take strong issue with the notion they are communists...

There were some like that in pre-revolution and post-revolution Russia as well. The problem is once the ball rolls down the hill it cannot be stopped. The conversion to a entirely socialistic political system opens up the back door for totalitarian communist or fascist rule.

The socialists of today in the U.S.A. are attempting to force the country into "The Dictatorship of the Proleteriat" which of course will be the precursor to the totalitarian communist state.

[j33]

socialist political system? I'm referring to socialism as an economic system, not a political system (e.g. Scandinavia)

[Avengerfire]

Originally Posted by j33

socialist political system? I'm referring to socialism as an economic system, not a political system (e.g. Scandinavia)

The socialistic political system comes after introducing it into an economic system.

[skipcromer]

Originally Posted by Avengerfire

Please enlighten the forum.

Enlighten the forum of what?

The slippery slope fallacy?

Let me google that for you (http://tinyurl.com/ygkcozd - broken link)

[JoeyPants]

Originally Posted by Avengerfire

Have you ever heard of a systematic and gradual take over? Malcolm X used the phrase "by any means necessary" from the play "Les Mains Sales" (Dirty Hands) by Jean-Paul Sartre. This phrase is a perfect example of the communistic method. Don't try to lecture me on political systems or the ways and means of those who wish to overthrow governments and political systems.

Is it even possible to radically gradually overthrow a system. The concept is at odds with itself. Radical is never gradual and Communists are revolutionists. A gradual revolution, hmmm.