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Old 02-05-2010, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Chicago, Little Village
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yep let some other town deal with it eventhough their police force is probably not capable of doing so. Not to mention ALOT of these "ghetto people" are going to towns that already got their own problems so the result will be gang and turf war, tensions among residents and more. Yep great idea
It's definitely a bad idea in the grand scheme of things. We should oppose segregation for reasons beyond the altruistic. Moving the poor to areas with less competent and funded police forces is definitely one issue. Another one is our property tax-based educational system. Criticize the CPS all you want but they have considerably more resources than most poor suburban school districts do, as misapplied as though they may be at this point. By shifting troubled people from Chicago to Harvey, for example, you're not addressing the issues of poverty, you're just moving it somewhere else, and making it worse.

And those moves will probably prove temporary in the long run anyway. Ask yourself this -- which social classes are growing fastest in terms of population numbers? All we're really doing by segregation at the end of the day is creating a larger and larger pool of people who will be completely unqualified (and unmotivated) to compete in the 21st Century economy, and who will become more and more of a social problem as time goes on.

It's really getting close to the time to address this.
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Old 02-05-2010, 01:18 PM
 
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One black entertainer agreed with him. The entertainer comes from the ghetto so he should know. O'Reilly was making the point that nothing seems to change or have the ability to change there. Both places are in dire straits. Nothing rasict about facts when they are true.

You are ****ing STTOOOPIDD
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Old 02-05-2010, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Lake Arlington Heights, IL
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I don't know about it being as bad as Haiti. And the local Chicago monarchy is more stable than Haiti's government (although both are guilty of skimming off the top for personal profits) Was O'Reilly taking a swipe at Obama with his statement? The real question which is difficult and complicated to answer is why hasn't change happened more quickly in some of the poorest sections of Chicago. Sections of the south and west side have been desperately poor for over 100 years. One could make a case that it's better than it was 80-100 years ago. What keeps economic development from lifting up some of these areas? Is it as simple as losing decent, steady jobs for many of the residents of these areas as manufacturing left the south and west side and moved farther out and then over seas? So the context he brought this up in was annoying and seems like pandering to his far right audience, but the question of why some of the neighborhoods don't seem to have the ability to change is interesting.
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Old 02-05-2010, 05:20 PM
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tJjNVVwRCY&feature=related

..for the folks...
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Old 02-05-2010, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Nice, thanks.

But I have seen the actual video that the link on the left leads to, it's really sad that O'Rielly gets that mad from a technical error.
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Old 02-05-2010, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Mokena, Illinois
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WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, "TO PLAY US OUT????"

He must have just returned from Haiti or the southside and is suffering from post-traumatic stress. Deep breaths, Bill.
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Old 02-07-2010, 01:28 PM
 
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It's clear that O'Reilly was just trying to pull one on Obama, because somehow politicians are supposed to have the answers to all the world's problems.

But come on, folks! We're using "South Side" and "economically depressed area" interchangeably here when really the South Side (and North Side) have their share of neighborhoods. I live on the South Side right now and have no plans to move to the North Side any time soon.
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Old 02-08-2010, 01:22 PM
 
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It's clear that O'Reilly was just trying to pull one on Obama, because somehow politicians are supposed to have the answers to all the world's problems.

But come on, folks! We're using "South Side" and "economically depressed area" interchangeably here when really the South Side (and North Side) have their share of neighborhoods. I live on the South Side right now and have no plans to move to the North Side any time soon.
It is annoying when people from outside of Chicago use "South Side" as a blanket term to describe "the bad part of town". This shows a lot of ignorance. There are still many nice areas on the South Side (though fewer than there used to be, of course). And the North Side isn't exactly all yuppies and trixies sipping lattes (come to Uptown for evidence of that and check in to the Wilson Men's Hotel). And the West Side always seems to get left out of the discussion for some reason, even though many of the most troubled neighborhoods in the city are located there.
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Old 02-08-2010, 04:51 PM
 
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It is annoying when people from outside of Chicago use "South Side" as a blanket term to describe "the bad part of town". This shows a lot of ignorance. There are still many nice areas on the South Side (though fewer than there used to be, of course). And the North Side isn't exactly all yuppies and trixies sipping lattes (come to Uptown for evidence of that and check in to the Wilson Men's Hotel). And the West Side always seems to get left out of the discussion for some reason, even though many of the most troubled neighborhoods in the city are located there.
I imagine its a bit like that flophouse in the Blues Brothers, but perhaps a bit more depressing knowing its real.

"D'you get me my cheese-whiz boy?" as he goes back to playing solitaire.
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Old 02-08-2010, 05:26 PM
 
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I imagine its a bit like that flophouse in the Blues Brothers, but perhaps a bit more depressing knowing its real.

"D'you get me my cheese-whiz boy?" as he goes back to playing solitaire.
I think it's even worse... It has a huge number of registered sex offenders, and there are chicken-wire ceilings (or so I've heard). They used to call these places "cage hotels".
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