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If you wish to take this literally,then what about decent people who never heard the Gospel,like say,most of the Americas for the first 3/4 of the Christian era?This condemns evil sinners who have committed specific sins.What about the good hearted and decent people in these places?
This questions really seems to get to many in the UR camp.
Paul answers you:
(Romans 1:20 NIV) For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
No one gets into Heaven without believing in Christ before they die. Men and women are not sentenced to hell based upon whether or not they have heard of Jesus Christ. Rather, they are justly and fittingly condemned based upon the fact that they are sinners. Indeed, they are sinners who have failed to act responsibly on what God has already revealed to them - whether through the light of creation (Rom 1), through the light of conscience (Rom 2), or through the light of Christ (Rom. 3). If people respond to whatever light they do have, then God will send them the light of the gospel. Because no one has been kept in the dark about God's existence, we're all accountable directly to Him (Luke 12:47-48).
While the Bible affirms that Christ is the only Savior (Acts 4:12), it also states that God is truly just (Job 34:12) and that He loves humanity with an everlasting love (John 3:16). Let us, therefore, labor all the more to bring God's message of reconciliation to a world in desperate need of salvation (Rom. 10:13-15), knowing that there is no other way to reach Him except through His Son - the Lord Jesus Christ (John 14:6).
Finally, we should ask, if those who have never heard the gospel are indeed bound for heaven, why should we attempt to evangelize them? Wouldn't it be more prudent to just keep everyone in the dark? In fact, if you really draw this argument out to its logical conclusion, Jesus Christ would not have come to seek and save those who are lost, but to seek and lose those who are already saved! He would then not be the great Savior of the world, He would become its greatest destroyer.
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Phillipians and Romans is a direct referrence to Isaiah 45, which deals with Israel only, in covenant, Jew or Gentile.
It has ONLY to do with the Resurrection and marriage of Israel to Christ.
All will confess Jesus as Lord, and that is the cornerstone of salvation.
Phillipians and Romans is a direct referrence to Isaiah 45, which deals with Israel only, in covenant, Jew or Gentile.
It has ONLY to do with the Resurrection and marriage of Israel to Christ.
Phillipians and Romans is a direct referrence to Isaiah 45, which deals with Israel only, in covenant, Jew or Gentile.
It has ONLY to do with the Resurrection and marriage of Israel to Christ.
All will confess Jesus as Lord, the bible depicts that it is all in due time, it talks of first fruits and the remnant, it talks of another flock ALSO hearing Gods voice.
We can observe this in our lives to a degree, Many that we observe come to the Lord different ways, through different means, through different perspectives.
It is religion of the pharasees that thinks that it is so special that one must conform to their way of thinking and perspective in order to be righteous and as Jesus proved they were working for Satan.
You just cannot get around that ALL confess Jesus as Lord includes everyone. Christianity talks out of both sides of it's mouth, it says to be saved you must confess Jesus as Lord, but then it says that won't save everyone. Ther pharasees at their finest.
All will confess Jesus as Lord, the bible depicts that it is all in due time, it talks of first fruits and the remnant,
Depending on your eschatological view is irrelevant, as the scriptures you refer to deals with only Israel...again.
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it talks of another flock ALSO hearing Gods voice.
Gentiles.
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We can observe this in our lives to a degree, Many that we observe come to the Lord different ways, through different means, through different perspectives.
Through Christ you mean?
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It is religion of the pharasees that thinks that it is so special that one must conform to their way of thinking and perspective in order to be righteous and as Jesus proved they were working for Satan.
I agree with you.
They were supposed to be the lampstand for the Gentiles, but instead, they walked on the other side of the road.
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You just cannot get around that ALL confess Jesus as Lord includes everyone. Christianity talks out of both sides of it's mouth, it says to be saved you must confess Jesus as Lord, but then it says that won't save everyone. Ther pharasees at their finest.
Sorry...you are incorrect. Read Isaiah 45. It deals with only Israel. Paul confirmed this, and extended the inclusion for Gentiles as well...hence circumcision of the heart. A realization that the prophets understood, but the pharisses denied.
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Depending on your eschatological view is irrelevant, as the scriptures you refer to deals with only Israel...again.
Gentiles.
Through Christ you mean?
I agree with you.
They were supposed to be the lampstand for the Gentiles, but instead, they walked on the other side of the road.
Sorry...you are incorrect. Read Isaiah 45. It deals with only Israel. Paul confirmed this, and extended the inclusion for Gentiles as well...hence circumcision of the heart. A realization that the prophets understood, but the pharisses denied.
All are saved through Christ, this is what I believe the power of Gods love does, because that is what God promises it will do and as humans we know true love corrects. Gods is true love, so correction is the only outcome.
Correction to perfection, this is not exclusive to you and what you believe as you falsely propose through your emotional state of mind.
YOU can work out and determine what you are willing to believe, but you offer nothing of interest to me.
Yes, at the day of judgement all will confess, and then all will be judged.
If they have confessed and their sin was atoned for on the cross... what is there to be judged about negatively??
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