No Payment for Sins in a Fairy Tale Lake of Fire (theist, God)
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So do you believe that June, our friendly neighborhood moderator is wicked and a worker of iniquity and an evil doer and is lawless?
Will you be happy when God destroys her and everyone else like her who is not a Christian for ever?
This is what God says. I believe Him.
My responsibility is to love her and you and all those like you, enough to warn you of what God says is the consequence of living a life in sin and unbelief...and that is the death of your soul...you're really dead now, spiritually, according to God...unfortunately...but I still love you...that's why I do what I do. There's still time...it's time to wake up!
June knows exactly how I feel about her...she knows I love her.
Your little tactic didn't work.
In Christs love...prayerfully in His truth,
Verna.
My responsibility is to love her and you and all those like you, enough to warn you of what God says is the consequence of living a life in sin and unbelief...and that is the death of your soul...your really dead now, spiritually, according to God...unfortunately...but I still love you...that's why I do what I do. There's still time...it's time to wake up!
June knows exactly how I feel about her...she knows I love her.
Your little tactic didn't work.
In Christs love...prayerfully in His truth,
Verna.
So you are contradicting yourself then? You say God says that unbelievers are wicked and are evil doers and are lawless, etc. ... But You don't believe that June who is an unbeliever is all these things?
So you are contradicting yourself then? You say God says that unbelievers are wicked and are evil doers and are lawless, etc. ... But You don't believe that June who is an unbeliever is all these things?
You are not making any sense ...
Read my letters...Ironmaw... I cannot read it for you while holding your hand and explaining everything to you...think about it awhile...It'll come to you...eventually. I hope.
Read my letters...Ironmaw... I cannot read it for you while holding your hand and explaining everything to you...think about it awhile...It'll come to you...eventually. I hope.
Someone explain it to him.
I read you words ... No one can make sense out of nonsense.
The whole Idea that someone is an evil doer and wicked and lawless simply because they are not a Christian is simply ridiculous. And the notion that a person is none of those things simply because they claim to be a christian is every bit as senseless ...
The words above are your words and not the words of God. Unbelievers are no more evil than believers in that we are all human and all fall short. None are righteous and none seek after God, that is scriptural, though many here would deny the truth of it.
Here is what Paul has to say about it ...
Rom 3:9
What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
And ...
Romans 11:31-36 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. For God hath concluded all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counseller? Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again? For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.
All things are of God, and are through God, and are to God ... Unbelievers and believers alike. Do you believe what the scriptures teach or not?
Last edited by Ironmaw1776; 07-14-2010 at 06:46 PM..
I read you words ... No one can make sense out of nonsense.
The whole Idea that someone is an evil doer and wicked and lawless simply because they are not a Christian is simply ridiculous. And the notion that a person is none of those things simply because you claim to be a christian is every bit as senseless ...
Amen, there are millions of Cornelius's out there .
I read you words ... No one can make sense out of nonsense.
The whole Idea that someone is an evil doer and wicked and lawless simply because they are not a Christian is simply ridiculous. And the notion that a person is none of those things simply because they claim to be a christian is every bit as senseless ...
The words above are your words and not the words of God. Unbelievers are no more evil than believers in that we are all human and all fall short. None are righteous and none seek after God, that is scriptural, though many here would deny the truth of it.
Here is what Paul has to say about it ...
Rom 3:9
What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
And ...
Romans 11:31-36 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. For God hath concluded all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counseller? Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again? For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.
All things are of God, and are through God, and are to God ... Unbelievers and believers alike, do you believe what the scriptures teach or not?
2 Corinthians 3:14
But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail in the reading of the old testament untaken away ; which vail is done away in Christ.
Something you fail to realize is that I am not obligated to explain anything to your standards, this is your fallacy. It is a fallacy that if my explanation does not meet your approval then it is wrong.
So go try your faulty reasoning on someone who is blind to it.
Then your lack thereof speaks volumes about your views, and the validity of them in regards to any thread I begin. Carry on.
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If a dual payment for sins is not scriptural and therefore false doctrine, your own doctrine is false because after death if any human being suffers the concequenses for their sin then Jesus payment was not enough in the first place, so your doctrine is a sham because you have to take you man made context and assert a fallacy that God doesn't love everyone in the first place.
Keyphrase...faith in Christ. Die..inherit life. No faith in Christ, die and pay for your sins.
Key factor....faith in Christ. There is no payment rendered if you don't have faith in Him! Good grief! You are dead in sin..forever. Have some faith, those sins are forgiven. The scripture is VERY CLEAR about this. But then again, you wouldn't believe them if Jesus walked right up to you and screamed it in your ear.
Are you people really this serious...no wonder...you have been spinning things so much, you all get lost in the yarn......YAWN!
Last edited by sciotamicks; 07-14-2010 at 08:20 PM..
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I cannot read it for you while holding your hand and explaining everything to you...think about it awhile...It'll come to you...eventually. I hope.
