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Here's the way I see it. I don't think there was hypocrisy in Paul's practice of the law. This is because Peter's situation with shunning the Gentiles was different from Paul ritual practices. Peter's hypocrisy stemmed from his judgment of the gentiles no his actually practice of the law. In judging the gentiles Peter was putting out a statement that those that observed the law are better than those who do not, essentially pushing justification through Christ to the back ground. And I'm not sure Paul does that with his practice of the law. His belief that Christ justifies seems to stand, in spite of him "becoming all things to all men". Imo, for Paul to be a hypocrite there has to be evidence of Paul elevating the practiced law over his belief in Christ.
I hope tht made sense, it sounded better in my head.
Here's the way I see it. I don't think there was hypocrisy in Paul's practice of the law. This is because Peter's situation with shunning the Gentiles was different from Paul ritual practices. Peter's hypocrisy stemmed from his judgment of the gentiles no his actually practice of the law. In judging the gentiles Peter was putting out a statement that those that observed the law are better than those who do not, essentially pushing justification through Christ to the back ground. And I'm not sure Paul does that with his practice of the law. His belief that Christ justifies seems to stand, in spite of him "becoming all things to all men". Imo, for Paul to be a hypocrite there has to be evidence of Paul elevating the practiced law over his belief in Christ.
I hope tht made sense, it sounded better in my head.
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hyp·o·crite
1: a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2:a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
Acts 21 among others....tells the story of his hypocritical actions. He claimed time and time again that the law was abolished/that circumcision was nothing and meant nothing, etc...and yet, in order to appease and please others (which would be acting in contradiction to ones stated beliefs), he followed the law and took a vow. That is hypocritical behavior.
1: a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2:a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
Acts 21 among others....tells the story of his hypocritical actions. He claimed time and time again that the law was abolished/that circumcision was nothing and meant nothing, etc...and yet, in order to appease and please others (which would be acting in contradiction to ones stated beliefs), he followed the law and took a vow. That is hypocritical behavior.
Yes, I think I understand what you mean. But I think I was trying to address the "false appearance" and the "stated beliefs" portion of those definitions. See I don't see Paul going through the purifying ritual in Acts 21 as hypocritical because it doesn't look like it goes against the "stated beliefs" that I have read of Paul and therefore there is no "false appearance". (Of course, the fact that I am not an avid bible reader should be taken into account when considering my opinion). Nevertheless, verses like Acts 23:3, Eph 2:15 Galatians 2, Romans 7 and even Hebrews 7 seem to uphold Paul's actions in Acts 21 and his way of doing things in 1Cor 9:19-23, rather then contradict them. I think that even when Paul talked about the abolition of the law, Jesus' fulfillment of the law (Matt 5:17) seemed to be in mind like in Eph 2:15. So I guess my point is that Paul (and Jesus as well, because though the law wasn't abolished wouldn't there still be a change through Christ's fullfillment?) were not necessarily addressing the law it self, but the need to change the accepted belief that people are justified through practicing these rituals because justification then depends on that person not Christ.
maybe those 12 dedicated in Rev. are for the original 12...Maybe we just assume that Judas is out because of what he did...and there were over 300 Gospels that eraenius had to choose from to be cannonized and settled on the 4 we know does that make any of the others without merit?...People say that the Gospel of Thomas is heretical, however, Thomas was one of the Apostles who went to India to spread the Gospel, are we to say that Thomas was wrong but the other 11 were on target?...Look at Paul and Peter, they were in disagreement over certain things...Sometimes people settle for the easiest to understand and comprehend because either they or to lazy to dig deep or just do not have the patience for it...
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maybe those 12 dedicated in Rev. are for the original 12...Maybe we just assume that Judas is out because of what he did
LOL ... That's crazy, i was thinking the EXACT same thing ... Awesome.
Luke version and how it differs from Paul's...Heard and not saw!
Acts 9:6-7
And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me do? And the Lord said unto him,
Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do. (this is what was uttered in the hearing of his companion according to Luke.)
7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, HEARING a voice, but seeing no man.
Paul's version: Saw but not heard...?
Acts 22:9 And they that were with me SAW indeed the light, and were afraid; but they HEARD NOT the voice of him that spake to me.
Removing the witnesses...???
Finally! Paul's proclamation: Acts 26:14-18
....To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
But then...we can sit at our computer to no end arguing this point, for it is only one's opinion against another. We will find out soon enough...won't we?
"LOVE" is my compass in skimming through passages of the scripture...
Blessings my friend (let's keep trudging)...
That is interesting, seeing that Luke was the author of the entire book of acts. I wonder how that contradiction got passed him?
Neat ...
Perhaps it can be explained by saying the witnesses saw a light but no man, and heard a voice but could not make out the words?
Here's the way I see it. I don't think there was hypocrisy in Paul's practice of the law. This is because Peter's situation with shunning the Gentiles was different from Paul ritual practices. Peter's hypocrisy stemmed from his judgment of the gentiles no his actually practice of the law. In judging the gentiles Peter was putting out a statement that those that observed the law are better than those who do not, essentially pushing justification through Christ to the back ground. And I'm not sure Paul does that with his practice of the law. His belief that Christ justifies seems to stand, in spite of him "becoming all things to all men". Imo, for Paul to be a hypocrite there has to be evidence of Paul elevating the practiced law over his belief in Christ.
I hope tht made sense, it sounded better in my head.
I have one word...Messianic Jew...actually two words...
1: a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2:a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
Acts 21 among others....tells the story of his hypocritical actions. He claimed time and time again that the law was abolished/that circumcision was nothing and meant nothing, etc...and yet, in order to appease and please others (which would be acting in contradiction to ones stated beliefs), he followed the law and took a vow. That is hypocritical behavior.
And what was that vow?...
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