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Many argue that the word used in Isaiah 7:14 and which Matthew properly ascribes as the fulfillment of that prophecy in the birth of Jesus the Christ is wrong.
But Matthew quoted from the Septuagint, (the Greek version of the Hebrew bible translated by Hebrew scholars). The word in that Greek version is "Parthenos" and is properly translated "virgin." Those Hebrew scholars knew how to translate Hebrew into Greek.
Other passages where Parthenos is used in the O.T. is properly translated "virgin."
Jesus truly did fulfill this messianic passage. No one else in the bible was born of a virgin.
John the baptist was the messenger sent before the Messiah also fulfilling the prophetic scriptures.
There are many more prophetic passages in the Old Testament ascribed to Jesus i.e. being born in Bethlehem, dying the way He did, entombed the way He was, etc. etc. etc.
Many argue that the word used in Isaiah 7:14 and which Matthew properly ascribes as the fulfillment of that prophecy in the birth of Jesus the Christ is wrong.
But Matthew quoted from the Septuagint, (the Greek version of the Hebrew bible translated by Hebrew scholars). The word in that Greek version is "Parthenos" and is properly translated "virgin." Those Hebrew scholars knew how to translate Hebrew into Greek.
Other passages where Parthenos is used in the O.T. is properly translated "virgin."
Jesus truly did fulfill this messianic passage. No one else in the bible was born of a virgin.
John the baptist was the messenger sent before the Messiah also fulfilling the prophetic scriptures.
There are many more prophetic passages in the Old Testament ascribed to Jesus i.e. being born in Bethlehem, dying the way He did, entombed the way He was, etc. etc. etc.
Additionally, the Messiah would have had to be born by a virgin to not be under the same curse as Adam. The redeemer cannot be under the same condemnation for which He is redeeming. Anyone of the seed of Adam is under the Judgement that was passed on Adam to toil and die.
Additionally, the Messiah would have had to be born by a virgin to not be under the same curse as Adam. The redeemer cannot be under the same condemnation for which He is redeeming. Anyone of the seed of Adam is under the Judgement that was passed on Adam to toil and die.
That's right trettep.. Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree."
Many argue that the word used in Isaiah 7:14 and which Matthew properly ascribes as the fulfillment of that prophecy in the birth of Jesus the Christ is wrong.
But Matthew quoted from the Septuagint, (the Greek version of the Hebrew bible translated by Hebrew scholars). The word in that Greek version is "Parthenos" and is properly translated "virgin." Those Hebrew scholars knew how to translate Hebrew into Greek.
Other passages where Parthenos is used in the O.T. is properly translated "virgin."
Jesus truly did fulfill this messianic passage. No one else in the bible was born of a virgin.
John the baptist was the messenger sent before the Messiah also fulfilling the prophetic scriptures.
There are many more prophetic passages in the Old Testament ascribed to Jesus i.e. being born in Bethlehem, dying the way He did, entombed the way He was, etc. etc. etc.
Not to derail your thread, but have you pondered Isaiah 9:16? It looks like in his 2nd coming it was not stated if he would be born of a virgin almost like Rev 12:5. Glad to hear your views, please.
This always cracks me up, I mean this sincerely. Here's Ahaz and Isaiah having a conversation and Isaiah supposedly goes off on some tangent that supposedly has nothing to with what Ahaz needed to know at that time.
Here we have some context where an alliance between the kingdom of Israel and Syria comes to threaten Ahaz and his kingdom of Judah. Isaiah meets the guy and brings words of encouragement to him and even goes as far as asking him (Ahaz) to "ask the lord for a sign" to prove the validity of the promise.
Ahaz balks because he is afraid to test god like that but that does not stop Isaiah from giving him one. The sign? A young woman will give birth to a child who will be around when the Assyrians arrive.
To hear [some] Christians tell it, Isaiah was talking about something 700 years in the future that had NO relevance whatsoever to what was really the pressing issue.
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