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Since you obviously do not believe the teaching of the Word in this matter, and you really have no intention of reading or listening to the biblical teaching of Derek Prince in this matter, and have no idea how this Teacher of the Word teaches on the subject from the Word, then perhaps you can leave the discussion, as it is really for those Christian Believers who need and who want help to overcome bondages in their lives.
There is a list of the blessings and curses God sends for the obedient and for the disobedient, in Deuteronomy 28.
Forms of blessings: Deut 28
I wish you would tell us whether you are receiving all the blessings listed in Deuteronomy 28 , and if not why not ?,there is only one answer if you are not, according to how you believe, you are in disobedience. Be honest with yourself read the blessings listed and admit if your belief is true you are cursed.
I know without a shadow of doubt you live your life under condemnation believing this teaching, no man can be in a right frame of mind believing this, unless they are fully obeying all the commands .
You know, Derek Prince deals with the power to bless and curse that is in our words, and gives somber warning to Believers on not speaking carelessly.
When Joshua cursed the one who would rebuild Jericho with the cost of the loss of the lives of his firstborn and lastborn sons, and that curse was fullfilled 500 years later, the recording of that in 1 Kings 16:34 states that the Holy Spirit spoke those words of cursing through the mouth of Joshua, also.
Mainstream christianity as the monoply on this one, it talks up sin death and condemnation over all that he has accomplished. I'm also noticing a pattern here, you love quoting OT scriptures.
I'm also noticing a pattern here, you love quoting OT scriptures.
So did Jesus!, and Paul -You got a problem with that?
But I used lots of NT, you just are not reading my posts.
Let's see, I have pasted liberally from Matthew, Mark, Acts, Luke, 1 Corinthians, Galations, 2 Timothy, and also referred to NT passages in the discussions more than a few times, without listing them -I dare say I've used more NT Scriptures than you have, in this thread.
So what is your problem that you can't read my posts but make false accusations?
Is it because you would rather see a man deaf and dumb, a woman bowed over, a person's body parts twisted with arthritis, a professing Christian commit suicide, a child tormented with epilepsy, a professing Christian addicted to drugs, tobacco, alcohol, or pornography or sexual impurities that they hate, than to see them delivered from the unclean spirits by the name and power and blood of Jesus Christ? Is it because you would rather have nightmares tormenting children and or adults, and many paranoid fears binding people from living in the fullness of God's blessings, like fear of spiders, fear of people, fear of heights, fear of water, fear of snakes -and so on and so forth, because you are disturbed by unclean spirits coming out of people , but not by demons remaining in, and tormenting, individual souls and families?
But for the persons who want deliverance, Jesus did tell us that we can be set free, and there is power in His name and help in His Church, for you to be released from every thing that binds you.
So did Jesus!, and Paul -You got a problem with that?
But I used lots of NT, you just are not reading my posts.
Let's see, I have pasted liberally from Matthew, Mark, Acts, Luke, 1 Corinthians, Galations, 2 Timothy, and also referred to NT passages in the discussions more than a few times, without listing them -I dare say I've used more NT Scriptures than you have, in this thread.
So what is your problem that you can't read my posts but make false accusations?
Is it because you would rather see a man deaf and dumb, a woman bowed over, a professing Christian commit suicide, a child tormented with epilepsy, a professing Christian addicted to drugs, tobacco, alcohol, or pornography or sexual impurities that they hate, than to see them delivered from the unclean spirits by the name and power and blood of Jesus Christ? Is it because you would rather have nightmares tormenting children and or adults, and many paranoid fears binding people from living in the fullness of God's blessings, like fear of spiders, fear of people, fear of heights, fear of water, fear of snakes -and so on and so forth, because you are disturbed by unclean spirits coming out of people , but not by demons remaining in, and tormenting, individual souls and families?
But for the persons who want deliverance, Jesus did tell us that we can be set free, and there is power in His name and help in His Church, for you to be released from every thing that binds you.
None of the above is due to curses, it's all down to how we think, As a man thinks in his heart so is he, what we believe rules us,this is why we are told to be transformed by the renewing of our minds(the way we think).
Unfortunately carnal christians love playing church,it's eyes are on external things,it believes everyone else has got a demon,a devil or cursed and going to heaven but themselves, every sermon it hears is for it's neighbor and not itself, the devil is powerful,and let me tell you this, you would run a mile if a demon manifested itself before you.There will come a day in your life when you will be embarrassed that you believe the way you do now, believe me i know.
you would run a mile if a demon manifested itself before you.
You err in your unbelief.
I have cast out demons, in the name of Jesus -but not alone, except once when there was no one else to help.
and one demon manifested itself . A neighbor who asked for deliverance knew she had a demon, for it took control of her and threw her to the floor at his will, and spoke through her in a male voice, calling itself by a man's name.
A demon also came out of me when I was in prayer and worship, as a new Christian, and it came out with a scream, all unexpectedly to myself. I was not seeking deliverance, I was just a new Christian worshiping and praying and interceding for my husband to be saved.
And I have seen many more cast out of others, in the name of Jesus, and I expect to see many more before Jesus returns -or else before I depart this body of flesh. I have also seen many miracles of healings, and have seen some of them happen when I was directed by the Holy Spirit to pray, specifically, for someone, and I also have received miracle healings when others prayed for me, specifically, by the leading of the Holy Spirit. We are a body, and we pray for one another.
Two years ago an in-law who was in my house under suicide watch was delivered from the spirit of suicide, after three tries, and God saving him by a miracle of intervention each time.
My brother-in-law, a retired Baptist preacher, was the one who had the prayer for his deliverance from that, and he was 2500 miles away, in intercession, and he had the burden and "prayed through", as we call it. My sis called me and told me it was done, and that if it was in heaven or on earth, her husband had touched it, and she had never seen her husband pray like that in her life! They had just come out to help me for a week, because I could not do it all alone.
The in-law was totally out of his mind, and determined to destroy himself. We had brought him home a few days after he had made the attempt, to help him here, and for the first three weeks he planned two more times to kill himself, the second one being by an overdose of pills. The fact is that even after the prayer for deliverance, he did indeed try the night the brother-in-law prayed through, but though he woke up, and staggered around, he did not die [because of the prayers of my brother-in-law, specifically], and he agreed to go to the hosp suicide prevention clinic [his second time in two weeks, a twelve hour ordeal]. At the hosp clinic, they tested his blood and there was not one trace of the overdose in his blood! The amount he took would have damaged his liver, but he had no trace of it at all in his blood. He is in the medical field, so he knew what he was taking and what he needed.
It was such a miracle of God's intervention, that the in-law was overwhelmed at last by God's grace to him, and received a promise from the Spirit from a passage of Scripture he read the next day, which he shared with me. It was gone, and it had troubled him for many years, and had come to a crisis point in his life - we were not aware of until we got the call one night after his attempt to destroy himself by fire, and was prevented from doing by circumstances I will not go into.
He is a Christian, and he was a Christian for years, while struggling with depression, which we were not aware of until the crisis event.
Was it in the name of Jeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzus, and did you speak to the demon like this "I command Thee in the name of Jeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzus.
The king james speech seems to work better on demons
Everyone else in the room were in a frenzy going Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus, or speaking in tongues too,right ?.
To be honest i really don't care what you have seen,why would you tell me you have cast demons out ?, does this prove something to me ?, Jesus told us to go tell our friends what great things he has done for you.I would give more notice to what he's done for you, than what you have seen.
So this thread really is about demonology and not blessing and curses, or are you now saying that demons are a result of the curse,if this is the case you have one too, because if you are not fully obeying all the commands as stated in Deuteronomy 28 you are in disobedience and under a curse,according to how you believe.
Originally Posted by pcamps you would run a mile if a demon manifested itself before you.
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Originally Posted by pcamps
To be honest i really don't care what you have seen,why would you tell me you have cast demons out ?,.
You slanderously accused me, as I repasted your attack above, and I showed you your error.
As to the rest of your accusations in the form of mocking questions, you have no intent in hearing my replies for any reason other than to slander -to trample them under your feet, is the Bible doctrine on that.
I will no longer reply to your attacks as this thread is hijacked in your constant mockings and unbelief.
But for those who are bound and would like to know the Biblical answers on freedom in Christ, and release from the curse, the study is most beneficial.
Jesus preached the Gospel of Peace with God, cast out demons and healed the sick. Jesus said His own would do greater works than He did, because He was going to the Father. And He sent His Spirit to empower His people to do His works in His name, for all the age of His Church on this earth, before this age ends.
Jhn 14:11 Believe me that I [am] in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake. Jhn 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater [works] than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. Jhn 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. Jhn 14:14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do [it]. Jhn 14:15If ye love me, keep mycommandments. Jhn 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Jhn 14:17 [Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. Jhn 14:18I will not leave you orphans: I will come to you.
Originally Posted by pcamps you would run a mile if a demon manifested itself before you.
You slanderously accused me, as I repasted your attack above, and I showed you your error.
As to the rest of your accusations in the form of mocking questions, you have no intent in hearing my replies for any reason other than to slander -to trample them under your feet, is the Bible doctrine on that.
I will no longer reply to your attacks as this thread is hijacked in your constant mockings and unbelief.
But for those who are bound and would like to know the Biblical answers on freedom in Christ, and release from the curse, the study is most beneficial.
Jesus preached the Gospel of Peace with God, cast out demons and healed the sick. Jesus said His own would do greater works than He did, because He was going to the Father. And He sent His Spirit to empower His people to do His works in His name, for all the age of His Church on this earth, before this age ends.
Jhn 14:11 Believe me that I [am] in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake. Jhn 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater [works] than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. Jhn 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. Jhn 14:14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do [it]. Jhn 14:15If ye love me, keep mycommandments. Jhn 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Jhn 14:17 [Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. Jhn 14:18I will not leave you orphans: I will come to you.
If rejecting what you believe is slander,then fair enough i am slandering you.You are right, what you believe is under my feet, i will not entertain what you believe in my mind,lest i succumb to the error of your thinking.
There's no study to be had .WE ARE REDEEMED FROM THE CURSE,BECAUSE CHRIST BECAME A CURSE FOR US.
If you think others or yourself are cursed,it's because you are thinking it, you need to adjust your thinking to "we are redeemed from the curse".Let go of what you are thinking in regards to the curse,become a blessing by being a blessing.
Through your offspring all peoples on earth will be blessed.When God raised up his servant, he sent him first to you to bless you by turning each of you from your wicked ways.”
The world is blessed not cursed, regardless of what you see with your natural eye. Point the believer and unbeliever to the fact they are blessed.
We are what we believe we are,and whatever we believe rules us, there is no escaping it.
Causes of Curses:
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