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Originally Posted by O-Ducky
Right, this is obvious since there are many other places in the Word of God that tell us that many won't make it to Heaven. God wants them to make it, but many won't. My foundation says:
“Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. 22 On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’ 23 But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.’
Building on a Solid Foundation
24 “Anyone who listens to my teaching and follows it is wise, like a person who builds a house on solid rock. 25 Though the rain comes in torrents and the floodwaters rise and the winds beat against that house, it won’t collapse because it is built on bedrock. 26 But anyone who hears my teaching and doesn’t obey it is foolish, like a person who builds a house on sand. 27 When the rains and floods come and the winds beat against that house, it will collapse with a mighty crash.”
*This should convict us all and challenge us to earnestly seek God in prayer as we read the teachings of Yahushua. It's impossible for anyone to go into the quiet place as we repent of sin and cry out to God in humility and not understand this. Imagine that, many believers aren't going to make it to Heaven. And what's worse is many of them probably are going to drag even more people down with them. I think the main problem is Satan lies to us when the Holy Spirit convicts us and says, as if he's God, "Hey, that's not me, I wouldn't condemn you". When the Holy Spirit convicts us we need to understand that it's not condemnation.
But it's also important to remember we are not to judge. If another believer dissagrees, who are we to say they haven't themselves repented of sin? That's between them and God. We are supposed to love each other. No matter what.
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God wants them to make it and many won't???
How could you say such a thing. God is omnipotent. If God desires something it comes to pass. We have an Almighty God, not some wussy god that wants something but is defeated by the will of a man.
The truth of the matter is this, all of God's children will be saved. All of those who as it says in Ephesans, Were CHOSEN in Him {Jesus} before the foundation of the world}.
Your next statement that is completely wrong is that "many believers are not going to be saved". All believers have the assurance of salvation period. You must not understand what a "Believer" actually is. Now Satan would be the type of believer that you are talking about. He believes for sure and trembles in fear. Believing in the historical reality of Jesus is a long way from "Saving faith". This saving faith is a gift of God. There is nothing you can do to get it or lose it. Once God has quickened a heart of stone into a heart of flesh He is "Faithful and Just to complete the work He started" and bring His own to Himself.
The theology of the bible has been largely perverted these days into a MAN based theology. What Man understands, what seems logical and reasonable to a Man. This is completey wrong. The bible is very clear that "The things of God are NONSENSE to the natural man. Understanding anything about God or His purposes for His creation is again a gift imparted to His children by the Holy spirit.
Men demand to understand the things of God to their satisfaction. Can you imagine that. Can a man understand a Being that created the universe out of nothing by a Word??
We are to preach the Gospel to the unsaved. That is the command. Anything other than that or beyond that is just a waste of breath. A little child can understand the basic message and if God so chooses and saves that little child then that child is at the beginning of understanding anything about God.
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