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Old 04-10-2020, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Southern Illinois
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So it's vegan to eat locusts? Honey is vegan? I thought vegans didn't eat any animal products.

Having said that, nowhere in Scripture does it suggest that John's diet was any sort of model for Christians to follow. In fact, it was represented as being strange and different.
I made some granola once for a vegan friend but he turned it down because it had honey in it. Fine. More for me lol. Then I found out later that locust beans is actually carob, so, like many of us, John was a chocoholic!
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Old 04-10-2020, 09:48 AM
 
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I made some granola once for a vegan friend but he turned it down because it had honey in it. Fine. More for me lol. Then I found out later that locust beans is actually carob, so, like many of us, John was a chocoholic!
He didn't eat locust beans. He ate locusts. `
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Old 04-10-2020, 09:59 AM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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Why would any decent person choose to find a way to justify killing or paying someone to kill? It is embarrassing and shameful to see people claiming to be Christians destroying the work of the Greatest Master to grace our earth, twisting and just plain outright ignoring the huge amount of evidence (all through out the bible starting at the beginning with Gen 1:29 which you obviously have never read) that Jesus Christ was a vegetarian and advocated a vegetarian diet.

As Christians you should be walking examples of Love and Compassion but sadly you are the opposite, anyone who eats animals is digging their way to hell with their forks and knives.

The bible has been heavily edited for the purpose of gaining mass followers, the more followers the more money, the more money the more power. Wake up people stop hiding behind false doctrine to justify your ignorance, you are not Christians unless you follow in the Great Masters foot steps, "Be Not among the meat eaters and wine drinkers" Wake Up! Wake Up!
You must think that Jesus thought that a fish was a vegetable.
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Old 04-10-2020, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Michigan, Maryland-born
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I am a vegetarian and find it helps keep me fit and trim.

Scientific studies show that vegetarian diets use far less resources like land and fossil fuels than meat diets as the cows take up lots of land, crops to fire the cow, fossil fuels to transport crops to the cows, water, etc.

I am also pro-life, so I don't eat meat, don't support the death penalty, support national healthcare, don't like abortion, etc. Not a fan of killing animals if I don't need to.

But I don't harshly judge meat eaters, my bf eats meat...a lot!
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Old 04-10-2020, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Michigan, Maryland-born
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He didn't eat locust beans. He ate locusts. `
Or he ate honeycakes, which also had a translation of locusts.

https://jamestabor.com/did-john-the-...s-or-pancakes/


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You must think that Jesus thought that a fish was a vegetable.
Valid point! But a lot of traditions had Jesus and his followers as not eating meat or rarely doing it.
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Old 04-10-2020, 11:51 AM
 
Location: US
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Why would any decent person choose to find a way to justify killing or paying someone to kill? It is embarrassing and shameful to see people claiming to be Christians destroying the work of the Greatest Master to grace our earth, twisting and just plain outright ignoring the huge amount of evidence (all through out the bible starting at the beginning with Gen 1:29 which you obviously have never read) that Jesus Christ was a vegetarian and advocated a vegetarian diet.

As Christians you should be walking examples of Love and Compassion but sadly you are the opposite, anyone who eats animals is digging their way to hell with their forks and knives.

The bible has been heavily edited for the purpose of gaining mass followers, the more followers the more money, the more money the more power. Wake up people stop hiding behind false doctrine to justify your ignorance, you are not Christians unless you follow in the Great Masters foot steps, "Be Not among the meat eaters and wine drinkers" Wake Up! Wake Up!
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Old 04-10-2020, 12:09 PM
 
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Or he ate honeycakes, which also had a translation of locusts.

https://jamestabor.com/did-john-the-...s-or-pancakes/




Valid point! But a lot of traditions had Jesus and his followers as not eating meat or rarely doing it.
I'd rather go by what Scripture says. It says he ate locusts.
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Old 04-10-2020, 12:11 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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Valid point! But a lot of traditions had Jesus and his followers as not eating meat or rarely doing it.
Traditions not withstanding, the New Testament has Jesus providing a boatload of fish for Peter who was after all a fisherman, and the other disciples both before and after he was resurrected, and once he was raised he ate a piece of boiled fish to show that he was not a spirit but was flesh and bones.

Good idea not to judge others for what they choose to eat.
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Old 04-10-2020, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Does anyone care for some wine, bread, cheese or a rare steak?
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Old 04-10-2020, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Michigan, Maryland-born
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I'd rather go by what Scripture says. It says he ate locusts.
Scriptures have translations. Translations can be spotty.

Early Christian writers in the 300s wrote that he ate honey and honey cakes. We know people in that part of the world at that time would eat honey cakes. Honey cakes in Greek is similar to the word locusts. Is it not possible that he really did eat honey cakes as my link suggests is possible?




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Traditions not withstanding, the New Testament has Jesus providing a boatload of fish for Peter who was after all a fisherman, and the other disciples both before and after he was resurrected, and once he was raised he ate a piece of boiled fish to show that he was not a spirit but was flesh and bones.

Good idea not to judge others for what they choose to eat.
Fair points.

Doesn't Paul mention that many early followers of Jesus wouldn't eat meat and it is tradition that Jesus' brother James wouldn't eat meat?



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Does anyone care for some wine, bread, cheese or a rare steak?
Bread and cheese!

I'll eat this meat:

https://sayingimages.com/wp-content/...arian-meme.jpg

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