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Old 06-29-2015, 07:36 PM
 
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OH NO! It is the MINOR and MAJOR fulfillment!!!
Prophecies have only ONE application...a prophecy CANNOT cover more than ONE EVENT...
PLEASE explain to me the MINOR and MAJOR prophecy of Jesus crucifixion?
Also, do all prophecies have TWO parts or just the ones evangelical fundies convert a prophecy to TWO parts when the first (original) no longer applies to modern society?
Please lay out criteria for determining which have minor and major fulfillment...and give the chapter and verse that has God telling us there are MINOR and MAJOR installments...PLEASE.
FLASH__JESUS is NOT coming back. This is not his kingdom..We will only see Jesus when we DIE...
Since the dead know nothing - Ecclesiastes 9:5; Psalms 115:17; 146:4; Daniel 12:2,13; John 11:11-14 - then how do unconscious people see Jesus when they are dead ?___________

What does Luke 19: 43-44; 21: 20-24 say about the destruction coming upon Jerusalem ?
In the year 66 the Christians fled Jerusalem so when the Romans returned in the year 70 they were long gone.
Although that destruction was bad it was Not the ' great tribulation ' of Matthew 24:21, so the year 70 was a limited fulfillment and the ' great tribulation ' - Rev. 7:14 being future.

Where is it written that all prophecies have 2 parts or a minor and a major one?
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Old 06-29-2015, 07:51 PM
 
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Since the dead know nothing - Ecclesiastes 9:5; Psalms 115:17; 146:4; Daniel 12:2,13; John 11:11-14 - then how do unconscious people see Jesus when they are dead ?___________

What does Luke 19: 43-44; 21: 20-24 say about the destruction coming upon Jerusalem ?
In the year 66 the Christians fled Jerusalem so when the Romans returned in the year 70 they were long gone.
Although that destruction was bad it was Not the ' great tribulation ' of Matthew 24:21, so the year 70 was a limited fulfillment and the ' great tribulation ' - Rev. 7:14 being future.

Where is it written that all prophecies have 2 parts or a minor and a major one?
Hey, that is my question....where is it written prophecy has MINOR and MAJOR fulfillment??

Some confused poster posted this--

The minor fulfillment of Matthew chapter 24 came in the year 70 when the Roman armies destroyed apostate Jerusalem.
Revelation was written well after the year 70, so it does Not apply to the first century.
The MAJOR fulfillment is for the soon coming ' time of separation ' - Matthew 25 vs 31,32; Rev. 7:14
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Old 06-30-2015, 05:14 AM
 
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First of all, Israel was Never part of the slave-trade business.
In Israel one would be a slave in order to work off his debt for 6 years, then set free.
Also, weren't slaves set free during the ' Jubilee Year ' ?
I was answering the person who said God was slowly destroying the USA because of their sins. I wasn't talking about Israel. I was talking about slavery in the USA.
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Old 06-30-2015, 05:20 AM
 
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I'm not against progress. I'm against redefining marriage to include something unnatural.
Are you talking about sex? Animals have been documented as having same-sex sex.

How do you define "unnatural"? Does sex have to have a possibility of pregnancy to be natural?
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Old 06-30-2015, 06:08 AM
 
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Are you talking about sex? Animals have been documented as having same-sex sex.

How do you define "unnatural"? Does sex have to have a possibility of pregnancy to be natural?
This has been discussed at length and the evangelical fundies dismiss this as being either fantasy or one in a million behavior by brain damaged animals..LOL
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Old 06-30-2015, 06:43 AM
 
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Actually, I think this IS part of the judgment. Just as God turned them over to their lustful ways in Romans 1, I believe God is lifting his grace from our nation.
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Old 06-30-2015, 07:21 AM
 
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Actually, I think this IS part of the judgment. Just as God turned them over to their lustful ways in Romans 1, I believe God is lifting his grace from our nation.
God surely lifted his "grace" with the genocide against the Original Nations, SLAVERY, destruction of the environment, Pat Robertson, and the marginalization of the least of us..Marriage Equality has yet to even reach His ears...
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Old 06-30-2015, 08:12 AM
 
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Actually, I think this IS part of the judgment. Just as God turned them over to their lustful ways in Romans 1, I believe God is lifting his grace from our nation.
That is superstition.
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Old 06-30-2015, 08:26 AM
 
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God surely lifted his "grace" with the genocide against the Original Nations, SLAVERY, destruction of the environment, Pat Robertson, and the marginalization of the least of us..Marriage Equality has yet to even reach His ears...
Perhaps. You listed some things we can certainly discuss. I would probably disagree with you on most of them, but the fact is, the American church, and American society as a whole has gone away from what God commands. He has in the past turned people over to their sinful ways and said "ok...have at it". I believe that's where we are today.
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Old 06-30-2015, 08:51 AM
 
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God surely lifted his "grace" with the genocide against the Original Nations, SLAVERY, destruction of the environment, Pat Robertson, and the marginalization of the least of us..Marriage Equality has yet to even reach His ears...
His Grace was never with this Nation. He has used it, but no Grace of favor. Grave is for individuals not Nations.
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