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Old 04-20-2011, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Italy
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If God is in me via His Spirit then the power to Judge and all other power of God resides in me as well and the same to all that believe. Judging is always judging people for people are known by their personality/being which is evidenced in their behavior which is manifested in good and evil.

If you say to me that you think it is wrong for me to Judge then you just Judged me because that belief resides in me. Now if your judgement is wrong then you didn't judge righteously.
Judging right from wrong is different than judging who is and who isn't going to heaven.


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brian
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:43 AM
 
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It's like our neighbor who insists on feeding our dog various "treats" even though we've asked him not to. We just had to explain to him, once again, that our dog gets ILL when he eats off his diet. Bless his well-intentioned heart ... he thinks he's being kind, but he just can't seem to get that he doesn't know what's best for OUR dog and he does harm when he means to help.
Exactly! Your insightfulness and clarity of mind are quite refreshing (for a heathen j/k).
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:45 AM
 
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teaching, rebuking, correcting and training = righteous judgment when done in the right spirit and motive.
Still do not see anywhere in there the permission to judge PEOPLE . . . only acts or actions or beliefs or . . whatever . . . on the basis of "Good or Evil."
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:46 AM
 
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Judging right from wrong is different than judging who is and who isn't going to heaven.
Blessings,
brian
Exactly!!! Why can't they see that judging acts, actions, beliefs, etc do NOT require that you judge the person doing them or believing them?
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Florida
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It's like our neighbor who insists on feeding our dog various "treats" even though we've asked him not to. We just had to explain to him, once again, that our dog gets ILL when he eats off his diet. Bless his well-intentioned heart ... he thinks he's being kind, but he just can't seem to get that he doesn't know what's best for OUR dog and he does harm when he means to help.
Consider if you were unexpectedly stuck out of town and could not get home for days. Would you be upset if your neighbor gave your dog water to drink without asking you first?
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Still do not see anywhere in there the permission to judge PEOPLE . . . only acts or actions or beliefs or . . whatever . . . on the basis of "Good or Evil."
We are not talking about judging people. We are talking about helping them.
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:59 AM
 
Location: New England
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We are not talking about judging people. We are talking about helping them.
That's how you justify judging.
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:59 AM
 
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Would you be upset if your neighbor gave your dog water to drink without asking you first if you were stuck out of town and could not do it yourself?
This is just part of the massive ASSuming and presumptuousness reflected in these attitudes. Why would you ASSume the owner had not made provision for someone to take care of their dog while away?
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Old 04-20-2011, 12:02 PM
 
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This is just part of the massive ASSuming and presumptuousness reflected in these attitudes. Why would you ASSume the owner had not made provision for someone to take care of their dog while away?
Not necessarily, if the owner is stuck out of town unexpectedly. It could happen to anyone.
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Old 04-20-2011, 12:16 PM
 
Location: New England
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Consider if you were unexpectedly stuck out of town and could not get home for days. Would you be upset if your neighbor gave your dog water to drink without asking you first?
But this is not what you are talking about, you are talking about removing the speck of dust from your brothers eye through judgement... rebuking and correcting.You keep quoting 2 Tim 3:16 which includes teaching, which you obviously think you are(a teacher).Take heed to watch the scriptures says.

Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly. 2 We all stumble in many ways. Anyone who is never at fault in what they say is perfect, able to keep their whole body in check. James 3:1-2

When you judge a brothers condition, and you are not what you want him to be, do you realize Finn you are bringing judgement upon yourself ? .

Open thy mouth, judge righteously, Both the cause of the poor and needy!'Proverbs 31:9
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