If the wicked say you are wicked are you wicked (Gospel, doctrine)
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It seems Jesus got into trouble too, with what they said of Him
the prophets and apostles too
Oh my, I want to know how do you tell the wicked from the righteous, how is it that you can tell who is the good girls and the bad girls, is there some way to tell, how is it I can know how to tell the difference between the two?
It seems Jesus got into trouble too, with what they said of Him
the prophets and apostles too
Oh my, I want to know how do you tell the wicked from the righteous, how is it that you can tell who is the good girls and the bad girls, is there some way to tell, how is it I can know how to tell the difference between the two?
Can someone help me, please?
Can you give an example of where you might have trouble telling if someone was wicked or not?
I think "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you", is a good place to start"
I know what u r saying, I just don't get it though for everyone things they r doing the right thing, it seems everyone thinks they know God and r going to heaven, I don't want to judge them so how do I tell if they are saved or not, there must be some way to tell the two apart?
I know what u r saying, I just don't get it though for everyone things they r doing the right thing, it seems everyone thinks they know God and r going to heaven, I don't want to judge them so how do I tell if they are saved or not, there must be some way to tell the two apart?
God promises that all will be saved and come to the knowledge of truth. You do not need to discern who is saved or not because you have no business trying to figure it out that is something God will take care of.
Do what you can today as Jesus did, to get people to turn their eyes towards the one who gave us the ultimate promise.
If u don't know if they wicked or not, how do you know what to preach to them if you can't tell, if u can't tell the lambs from the goats, there must be some way to tell the difference from light and darkness, there must be signs or something, does God say anything about this?
In Matthew 7: 15-20.... Jesus said ....``You will know them by the fruits.... Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?.... Even so every good fruit tree brings good fruit, but a corrupt tree brings forth evil fruit .... A good tree cannot bring evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring bring good fruit ....... Every tree that brings no good fruit is chopped down and caste in the fire....... Wherefore by their fruits you will know them``....... What is the fruits of the righteousness spirit and what are the evil fruits ? ...Well in Galatians 5:19-23 the good fruits of the spirit are ; love, joy, peace, long suffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance...... Where the fruit of evil or the flesh it is called are; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envying, murders, drunkenness, revelings, and the sort .........See if people call people wicked and this curse stays of people that is a curse of witchcraft, which is evil................
It seems Jesus got into trouble too, with what they said of Him
the prophets and apostles too
Oh my, I want to know how do you tell the wicked from the righteous, how is it that you can tell who is the good girls and the bad girls, is there some way to tell, how is it I can know how to tell the difference between the two?
Can someone help me, please?
Best test is to see how someone handles persecution. Remember there is no reward in loving those that love you. You have to be able to love those that HATE you and persecute you. So the real test of the righteous vs the wicked is that the wicked can love those that love them but not love the ones that hate them whereas the righteous can love everyone no matter what.
If u don't know if they wicked or not, how do you know what to preach to them if you can't tell, if u can't tell the lambs from the goats, there must be some way to tell the difference from light and darkness, there must be signs or something, does God say anything about this?
Just live your life with what God has given you and he will do the preaching.
It seems Jesus got into trouble too, with what they said of Him
the prophets and apostles too
Oh my, I want to know how do you tell the wicked from the righteous, how is it that you can tell who is the good girls and the bad girls, is there some way to tell, how is it I can know how to tell the difference between the two?
Can someone help me, please?
We are all "wicked", in the sense that we all fall short of the righteousness of Christ. But, if there be any who are righteous, it is because of the righteousness of Christ in us, those who are His. Once we become born again in our spirit, we automatically start producing fruit, as hljc as so aptly said:
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hljc: "In Matthew 7: 15-20.... Jesus said ....``You will know them by the fruits.... Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?.... Even so every good fruit tree brings good fruit, but a corrupt tree brings forth evil fruit .... A good tree cannot bring evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring bring good fruit ....... Every tree that brings no good fruit is chopped down and caste in the fire....... Wherefore by their fruits you will know them``....... What is the fruits of the righteousness spirit and what are the evil fruits ? ...Well in Galatians 5:19-23 the good fruits of the spirit are ; love, joy, peace, long suffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance...... Where the fruit of evil or the flesh it is called are; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envying, murders, drunkenness, revelings, and the sort .........See if people call people wicked and this curse stays of people that is a curse of witchcraft, which is evil................ "
HLJC is right: you will know a person by their fruit. If you study a person long enough, you will eventually realize who they are, by the fruit they produce. Either good fruit, or bad. Some of the easiest to observe are the crude, or downright evil, actions of some of the "celebrities", politicians, dictators, movie stars, etc, as seen daily on TV news.
Example, I'd be willing to bet that you've never met Moamar Ghadafi, leader of Libya. However, as seen by his actions recently on TV news, would you estimate that he's most likely a wicked, or righteous, person?
It seems Jesus got into trouble too, with what they said of Him
the prophets and apostles too
Oh my, I want to know how do you tell the wicked from the righteous, how is it that you can tell who is the good girls and the bad girls, is there some way to tell, how is it I can know how to tell the difference between the two?
Can someone help me, please?
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Originally Posted by Phazelwood
God promises that all will be saved and come to the knowledge of truth. You do not need to discern who is saved or not because you have no business trying to figure it out that is something God will take care of.
Do what you can today as Jesus did, to get people to turn their eyes towards the one who gave us the ultimate promise.
Arena valleygirl, I hope you are aware that what the poster above said is a false gospel called Universalism which teaches that everyone will be saved. They will not.
It can be very difficult to tell a believer from an unbeliever. You have only their words and actions by which to tell. But that can be deceptive. A believer who remains under the control of his sin nature through failure to acknowledge his sins as per 1 John 1:9 can be undistinquishable from an unbeliever.
If someone who professes to be a believer teaches things which are contrary to what the Bible teaches, then they may very well not be saved. If a person is living in such a way as involves things such as habitual drunkenness, sexual immorality, etc..., he may be an unbeliever or he may be a believer who is habitually out of fellowship.
Solomon was a believer, but turned away from God. He never lost his salvation, but because of his many wives he turned from God and began pursuing happiness in all the usual human ways. He did turn back to God before he died.
A believer can be evil despite being eternally saved. Evil is the policy of Satan as the ruler of this world. It is his modus operendi as he seeks to control this world. There are things which you might think of as being good that are in reality evil. One example is Universalism. It sounds good to the ears to think that all men will be saved, but it is evil because it is a lie from Satan. Another evil is salvation by works.
To be able to discern evil, the believer must learn the word of God and apply it to his life.
I like what Dr. Lewis Sperry Chafer who was the founder and first president of Dallas Theological Seminary wrote concerning evil.
'Next to the lie itself, the greatest delusion Satan imposes -- reaching to all unsaved and to a large proportion of Christians -- is the supposition that only such things as society considers evil could originate with the devil -- if, indeed, there be any devil to originate anything. It is not the reason of man, but the revelation of God, which points out that governments, morals, education, art, commercialism, vast enterprises and organizations, and much of religious activity are included in the cosmos diabolicus. That is, the system which Satan has constucted includes all the good which he can incorporate into it and be consistent in the thing he aims to accomplish. A serious guestion arises whether the presence of gross evil in the world is due to Satan's intention to have it so, or whether it indicates Satan's inability to execute all he has designed. The probability is great that Satan's ambition has led him to undertake more than any creature could ever administer. Revelation declares that the whole cosmos-system must be annihilated-- not its evil alone, but all that is in it, both good and bad. God will incorporate nothing of Satan's failure into that kingdom which He will set up in the earth.'
[Systematic Theology, Lewis Sperry Chafer, Vol 2, pages, 100, 101.]
Every believer is Positionally righteous because he has been imputed with God's very own perfect righteousness (Romans 4:3-5). But to grow spiritually after salvation, he must make constant decisions to learn and apply the word of God to his life.
I like to point people to the following doctrinal website so that they, if interested, can learn basic fundamental Bible doctrine. You might not be interested. But if you are then you will learn much here that will be of great spiritual value. Fundamentals (Audios) : Country Bible Church - Brenham, TX
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