Why Did God Create Sin/Evil? (punishment, Christ, translate, Genesis)
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If I may interject on this one point: that is a failed argument.
Infinite evil is not required to understand goodness. Evil is only a temporary necessity that is required only until the necessary good virtues (ie. compassion, patience, forgiveness, etc) have been learned.
Yo Lego. How goes the battle my friend?
It matters not how long it lasts. What matters is why an omniscient deity would create evil when he knew he wasn't going to be happy with the existence of evil (haven't you and I had this conversation before? ).
It matters not how long it lasts. What matters is why an omniscient deity would create evil when he knew he wasn't going to be happy with the existence of evil (haven't you and I had this conversation before? ).
(Probably... )
Anyway the point is you cannot understand goodness without also understanding evil.
You cannot understand compassion without also having to understand suffering.
You cannot understand patience without also understanding what it means to wait a LOOONG time.
etc.
God is good.
Suppose you were God. How would you teach people to be good? How would you give people the experience necessary so they would understand why it is good to be good?
So then God teach's with a tool . A tool of evil , pain& suffering at the expence of others. A trick to emphasize the Love of God by demarcation....just like tricking myself by banging my head against the wall in order to enjoy my day with and without head pain in a comparrison.
Again a manipulative insecure God...in idea
Why not? Why isn't it possible for an omnipotent deity to create a situation where goodness could be understood without the need for evil?
Its called the logical law of identity.
A triangle has 3 sides. You cannot know what a triangle is unless you also know it has 3 sides.
Likewise, you cannot know what compassion is unless you also know that it involves helping and empathizing with someone who is suffering some evil.
If you wish to entertain the illogical to the point of violating the law of identity, then all words cease to have any meaning and then we can't even really have a discussion.
See what I'm getting at?
Omnipotence does not mean there are square circles or that God can make rocks too big that even He cannot lift them. It is the same with understanding goodness. An understanding of evil is intrinsic to the process.
A triangle has 3 sides. You cannot know what a triangle is unless you also know it has 3 sides.
Likewise, you cannot know what compassion is unless you also know that it involves helping and empathizing with someone who is suffering some evil.
If you wish to entertain the illogical to the point of violating the law of identity, then all words cease to have any meaning and then we can't even really have a discussion.
See what I'm getting at?
Omnipotence does not mean there are square circles or that God can make rocks too big that even He cannot lift them. It is the same with understanding goodness. An understanding of evil is intrinsic to the process.
This philosophy denys progress in something or goodness (away from evil) ... evil is not neccesary. It is mans little invention ....not Gods.
Given thought is a submission in hopelessness . A neccesary evil. It also suggests by rule a neccesary self evil which we know is not neccesary. It is an illogical view blaming an all Loving God for man's invention in rejection of his becoming. trying to wiggle out of the discomfort in the growing process with un-natural wierd short-cuts. Evil.
For those who think God did not create evil, do you think evil existed before anything was created?
Darkness and cold existed before the universe was created. Or maybe I should not say they existed, because even today they do not exist, since they are only te result of removal of light and heat. In the same way evil did not need to ne created, it simply is, and always was the absence or good.
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