for those who have ears to hear, let them hear... (blood, vain)
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I feel I have no choice but to let this be my last post for a while. I have tried my best to share the teachings of Yahushua the Messiah, but now, I need some time for me and Elohim. I need to escape this forum for a while. I do hope you all are blessed and desperately listen and obey Yahushua the Messiah. I hope I've been a blessing.
May Yahua's blessings be upon you. I bless you in the name of Yahushua... so be it.
I'd say you do need some time to rethink your approach. I had a WHOLE lot more to say but I'll leave it at that.
Ok well here it is people. If your really interested in what the Word of Yahua has to say about this, here are two threads that have some very good FACTS. The way to approach the Word of Elohim is not to twist anything it says. You have to find clear undeniable facts and then peace them all together. Many scriptures can be twisted but there is a way to get FACTS.
Ok, please listen carefully. The way to approach the Word of Elohim is:
Clear your mind of ALL teachings of man and beliefs that have influenced your mind.
Intensely study for yourself and gather facts. Be very carefull not to assume anything that it does not say. An example of twisting and assuming would be how many Christians assume just because a scripture says that, "one will be taken and the other left behind", it means that the ones left behind will be left during the great tribulation and the ones taken won't be here during that time. It does not say that. It simply says that one will be taken and the other left. If you really know the Word then you'd understand that it means that we will be taken before the final destruction of earth. We are not subject to the wrath. However, we will be here on that final last day of Yahua and with our eyes we will witness the greatest horror ever. With our eyes we will watch people as they are horrified at the return of Yahushua the Messiah coming in all the glory of the father. They will be falling at our feet begging for our help and will be frantically running trying to hide. We will witness this great and dreadfull day of Yahua and it will be horrible indeed. I've personally had a "Day of Yahua" bootcamp, if you will. He let me feel what it's going to feel like during that time. It's not going to be joyfull for us, I can promise you that. We are going to feel the shock and awe or the horror as well but we will be protected from all wrath. Then we will be taken up, and Daniel right along with us.
Listen, it's not, not being baptized that's going to cause you not to be saved. Not being baptized is only a symptom of the real problem. The problem, or sickness if you will, is the fact that you are not a disciple of Yahushua the Messiah and you have not been obeying Him. You've been following MAN. You've knowingly skipped over His teachings and have not repented of sin, along with other things.
Look at your life. Examine yourself. Are you really born again? Have you allowed the Messiah to set you free from sin, are do you find yourself in total dissagreement with Elohim's holiness. Are you freinds with the world and find there really is no difference between you and the world? Come on. Examine yourself honestly. Do you really have a relationship with God? If you do then you definitely have the conviction of the Holy Spirit as well, and He disciplines you and lets you know what offends Him.
They won't make it NOT because they werent baptized (although that would be the way to recieve the Holy Spirit and truely be born again, so it could be the root I guess), but it's because you have not denied yourself, taken up your stake, and followed the Messiah, Yahushua. The absolute root of the matter is you don't obey God and have treated His laws and teachings like trash. You have chosen that you like to sin and it's ok to sin because you believe. You have chosen, not like Mary Magdeline, to stay in prostitution. Yahushua has told you go and sin no more, and you said, but I have to Yahushua, I can't stop, because that's what that pastor told me.
Right now you have a chance. If you are breathing right now then you now have a great and blessed opportunity to make sure you follow the Messiah's teachings.
This message is not from "me" to you. This message is from "God", to me and you. Me personally, I chose to be prepared and I know just exactly what to do. It's called repentance with a very intense and earnest cry and search for the Almighty through Yahushua our Messiah. I don't want to be sleeping in the garden when He returns. This requires me not fooling myself or lying to myself. When He says to pray, it doesn't mean to casually pray every now and then or whatever. He's watching both of us right now at this very moment.
Ok, please listen carefully. The way to approach the Word of Elohim is:
Clear your mind of ALL teachings of man and beliefs that have influenced your mind.
Intensely study for yourself and gather facts. Be very carefull not to assume anything that it does not say. An example of twisting and assuming would be how many Christians assume just because a scripture says that, "one will be taken and the other left behind", it means that the ones left behind will be left during the great tribulation and the ones taken won't be here during that time. It does not say that. It simply says that one will be taken and the other left. If you really know the Word then you'd understand that it means that we will be taken before the final destruction of earth. We are not subject to the wrath. However, we will be here on that final last day of Yahua and with our eyes we will witness the greatest horror ever. With our eyes we will watch people as they are horrified at the return of Yahushua the Messiah coming in all the glory of the father. They will be falling at our feet begging for our help and will be frantically running trying to hide. We will witness this great and dreadfull day of Yahua and it will be horrible indeed. I've personally had a "Day of Yahua" bootcamp, if you will. He let me feel what it's going to feel like during that time. It's not going to be joyfull for us, I can promise you that. We are going to feel the shock and awe or the horror as well but we will be protected from all wrath. Then we will be taken up, and Daniel right along with us.
Listen, it's not, not being baptized that's going to cause you not to be saved. Not being baptized is only a symptom of the real problem. The problem, or sickness if you will, is the fact that you are not a disciple of Yahushua the Messiah and you have not been obeying Him. You've been following MAN. You've knowingly skipped over His teachings and have not repented of sin, along with other things.
Look at your life. Examine yourself. Are you really born again? Have you allowed the Messiah to set you free from sin, are do you find yourself in total dissagreement with Elohim's holiness. Are you freinds with the world and find there really is no difference between you and the world? Come on. Examine yourself honestly. Do you really have a relationship with God? If you do then you definitely have the conviction of the Holy Spirit as well, and He disciplines you and lets you know what offends Him.
They won't make it NOT because they werent baptized (although that would be the way to recieve the Holy Spirit and truely be born again, so it could be the root I guess), but it's because you have not denied yourself, taken up your stake, and followed the Messiah, Yahushua. The absolute root of the matter is you don't obey God and have treated His laws and teachings like trash. You have chosen that you like to sin and it's ok to sin because you believe. You have chosen, not like Mary Magdeline, to stay in prostitution. Yahushua has told you go and sin no more, and you said, but I have to Yahushua, I can't stop, because that's what that pastor told me.
Right now you have a chance. If you are breathing right now then you now have a great and blessed opportunity to make sure you follow the Messiah's teachings.
This message is not from "me" to you. This message is from "God", to me and you. Me personally, I chose to be prepared and I know just exactly what to do. It's called repentance with a very intense and earnest cry and search for the Almighty through Yahushua our Messiah. I don't want to be sleeping in the garden when He returns. This requires me not fooling myself or lying to myself. When He says to pray, it doesn't mean to casually pray every now and then or whatever. He's watching both of us right now at this very moment.
Instead of all these vain attempts to ensnare others with your yoke of bondage and heavy ladens, why don't you simply by faith trust in the Grace of God and his unconditional love for you and have patience and faith for yourself and others, that he who created us for good works, will cause us to do them.Have faith in God.
Instead of all these vain attempts to ensnare others with your yoke of bondage and heavy ladens, why don't you simply by faith trust in the Grace of God and his unconditional love for you and have patience and faith for yourself and others, that he who created us for good works, will cause us to do them.Have faith in God.
There are some elements of this thread that I agree with. Not sinning (but also not beating yourself over the head if it happens), praying, get right/honest with God. These are all good things, and I think they are acceptable in God's sight.
(Baptism, however, I leave to the individual. It's quite clear that there are people who have not been baptised but are considered "saved" by others. If man doesn't condemn you, why should God??)
There are some elements of this thread that I agree with. Not sinning (but also not beating yourself over the head if it happens), praying, get right/honest with God. These are all good things, and I think they are acceptable in God's sight.
(Baptism, however, I leave to the individual. It's quite clear that there are people who have not been baptised but are considered "saved" by others. If man doesn't condemn you, why should God??)
Blessings,
brian
Jesus Christ came not to demand obedience to him in the way which the dogmatists would have us to believe and to try and weigh us down with, but to learn of him,whose yoke is easy and burden light.Why is his yoke easy and burden light, unlike the yoke of iron put around our neck and the heavy burden to bear which fundamentalism attempts to put-on us?,Because he is gentle and humble in heart,and our attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus:Phil 2:5
Jesus Christ came not to demand obedience to him in the way which the dogmatists would have us to believe and to try and weigh us down with, but to learn of him,whose yoke is easy and burden light.Why is his yoke easy and burden light, unlike the yoke of iron put around our neck and the heavy burden to bear which fundamentalism attempts to put-on us?,Because he is gentle and humble in heart,and our attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus:Phil 2:5
I agree 110%. It's not anything about doing certain acts (including baptism) because you MUST. It's simply having a good, honest heart towards God.
In my own experience, it was God who came to me and changed me inside. Later, I felt more aware of Him inside me. But the One who initiated things was Him, not me. Maybe that's why I feel disappointed when I see/hear preachers telling people they have to do (x) or end up in hell. That's not how it was in my experience at all.
Be assured, those who have died in Yahushua and those are alive at the time of His return will rise at the same exact time and there will be no pre-tribulation rapture or mid-tribulation rapture. Noone will be mysteriously dissappearing from the planet in some rapture. What's going to happen is the seven last plagues and then the wrath of Elohim will happen. The wrath of Elohim will happen the same exact time of the return of the Messiah. We will be protected during this wrath and will be caught up before the heaven's and the earth dissappear in flames. The heaven's will be rolled up like a scroll, then all mankind will stand before Elohim, then there will be a new heavens and a new earth for us. If I need to I will show you this in His Word. It's simple. But of course I don't use the writings of Paul. It's in Isaiah, Joel, Daniel, Matthew, Mark (which is really the Book of Peter), 1st or 2nd Peter, and Revelation. There are also other places in the Old Testament.
I'm not speaking against this thread as the message is a good one.
You just need to understand that you will see the great deception, if Elohim allows it further. The great deception is Satan's UFO/Alien deception. I personally am an eyewitness to these man fabricated spacecraft as well as other things. However, noone knows the time of His return and it will be a surprise. The great deception has really allready taken place as well as the mark of the beast and other prophesies. I believe it's highly likely Yahushua could return any minute. It will be a surprise to ALL! Even Satan.
You must be ready. I will leave you with this one very critical word.
STOP SINNING (10 Commandments)
Be water baptized
Listen and obey the teachings of the Messiah wholeheartedly
PRAY constantly!!!
I believe it is very important for all believers to take back the Ten Commandment into their heart and remember to keep the Seventh Day Sabbath holy. Separate yourself from the pagan customs in the church and if you have to find a Messianic fellowship. Pray about it before you let it go through one side and out the other. Do what I've said, and then pray about it. He will let you know if what I'm saying is true.
Don't decieve yourself, if your living in sin, you will not have your prayers answered. This is also scriptural.
Sorry Ducky, but the "tares" will be "gathered up" "first" and "burned" before the "wheat" is "put into the barn" (Matthew 13:30). And "everyone dies for their own iniquity" (Jeremiah 31:30), no exceptions, despite what Paul and the serpent may of taught with respect to not keeping the commandments of God (Genesis 3:4). "Everyone" will surely die. No exceptions, despite Paul saying you will not sleep/die, but changed from perishable to imperishable in a twinkling of an eye. That is the message of the serpent in (Genesis 3:4). The only ones protected are the 144,000 with the seal of God, who are protected from the "locusts" (Revelation 9:4) And the LORD does not come and fight until the nations are gathered around "Jerusalem", and it is "captured" (Zechariah 14:1-3).
As for being prepared, well you will need your own ark, for 1/3 of mankind (Revelation 9:18), and 1/3 of the greenery, and fishes, will be dead (Revelation 8), and you will be looking at the "great earthquake", in which the "cities of the nations" "fall". There will be no refuge hanging onto a cloud, but men will look for rocks to hide under (Matthew 6:15-16) (Isaiah 26:20).
Revelation 6:15-16 [SIZE=2]15[/SIZE]Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and everyone else, both slave and free, hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains. [SIZE=2]16[/SIZE]They called to the mountains and therocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!
Instead of all these vain attempts to ensnare others with your yoke of bondage and heavy ladens, why don't you simply by faith trust in the Grace of God and his unconditional love for you and have patience and faith for yourself and others, that he who created us for good works, will cause us to do them.Have faith in God.
When the potter cast the red clay bowl for Essau, was Edom cast for good or evil? (Joel 3:19) Were the "tares" grown from tare seed, to produce good fruit, or were they cut down and burned because they had no fruit? A tare plant may look like a wheat plant, but it produces no fruit. Did Yeshua prophesized about the tare plants before they were planted, or after they were planted?
Joel 3:…19 Egypt will become desolate, and Edom a desert wasteland, because of the violence done to the people of Judah, in whose land they shed innocent blood.
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