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Old 11-06-2011, 09:35 AM
 
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Keep speaking the Truth, Finn. If God had already saved everyone/ forgiven everyone, then there was no reason for Jesus Christ to exist. Without belief in Jesus Christ, one is not saved from the wrath of God. Why else does so much of the Bible (Holy Spirit or God Himself revealing truth to many authors across thousands of years) address what happens to unbelievers?
Actually this is not a thread about God saving everyone, it,s a message about God's heart towards the world He So loves,it is also a message of reconciliation of which those who believe on the Lord Jeus Christ are ambassadors of , that message of the ambassadors of Christ is this.........."That God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself,not counting your sin against you, SO BE YE RECONCILED TO GOD.

This thread as bought out the worst of the system of fundamentalism and revealed it for what it is. A religion that believes it is forgiven,while the world remains unforgiven. It is the enemy of the good news .
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Old 11-06-2011, 10:24 AM
 
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Actually this is not a thread about God saving everyone, it,s a message about God's heart towards the world He So loves,it is also a message of reconciliation of which those who believe on the Lord Jeus Christ are ambassadors of , that message of the ambassadors of Christ is this.........."That God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself,not counting your sin against you, SO BE YE RECONCILED TO GOD.

This thread as bought out the worst of the system of fundamentalism and revealed it for what it is. A religion that believes it is forgiven,while the world remains unforgiven. It is the enemy of the good news .
The "enemy of the good news" are those who don't share how to become reconciled and forgiven....to trust Christ as their Savior and become blameless before God. Or those who believe there is another way to be reconciled other than through Christ. He is the one road to reconciliation.
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Old 11-06-2011, 10:29 AM
 
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The "enemy of the good news" are those who don't share how to become reconciled and forgiven....to trust Christ as their Savior and become blameless before God. That is the one road to reconciliation.
You are forgiven by believing in the forgiveness of God towards you.

God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself, NOT counting your sin against YOU.

This is not hard to understand .This is good news that God IS NOT counting your sin against you, by believing it you are reconciled back to God.

You are belittling the good news to how a man forgives, I have news for you,God is not a man.

Just so you know the message of reconciliation is for those who need reconciling, and not to the believer as Finn Jarber,to whom YOU said "keep preaching the truth"

Do you believe the believer needs reconciling or the unbeliever ?.
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Old 11-06-2011, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Gaston, North Carolina
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Then you believe opposite to what Paul wrote about the message of reconciliation towards those who are not reconciled. Yours actually is a message of unforgiveness not forgiveness .You have God still against the world because of their sin,Paul as God for them, because in God being for them not against them is the good news.Good news which will change your life if believed.

God was in Christ reconciling the world to HIMSELF, NOT COUNTING THE SIN OF THE PEOPLE AGAINST THEM.
God is not against anyone but He will not forgive the unbeliever. What God is against is sin and He offers everyone the chance to be forgiven, just believe in Christ. If you are in Christ your sins are forgiven if you deny Christ you are still accountable for your sins.
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Old 11-06-2011, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Gaston, North Carolina
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You are forgiven by believing in the forgiveness of God towards you.
Half true, you forgot about Christ and the cross.

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God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself, NOT counting your sin against YOU.
Half true, God saw the sins and offered a way out, it is up to you to accept or deny.

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This is not hard to understand .This is good news that God IS NOT counting your sin against you, by believing it you are reconciled back to God.
Half true, Sin is what blocks you from God, Christ is the bridge threw sin for those who will believe.

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You are belittling the good news to how a man forgives, I have news for you,God is not a man.
Half true,Man forgives nothing, only God can forgive.

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Just so you know the message of reconciliation is for those who need reconciling, and not to the believer as Finn Jarber,to whom YOU said "keep preaching the truth"
Half true,Reconciling is for the believer for growth and for the unbeliever for salvation.

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Do you believe the believer needs reconciling or the unbeliever ?.
Both.
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Old 11-06-2011, 10:50 AM
 
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God is not against anyone but He will not forgive the unbeliever. What God is against is sin and He offers everyone the chance to be forgiven, just believe in Christ. If you are in Christ your sins are forgiven if you deny Christ you are still accountable for your sins.
You believe in bad news as far as I am concerned and you too are an enemy of the good news

You obviously do not believe the message of reconciliation which is "God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself............are you ready for this ?............not holding YOUR sin again YOU.

You along with the rest of the fundamentalists are in unforgiveness towards the world and holding it accountable until it does something. And do not even insult the world and attempt to justify yourself by saying you are not in unforgiveness towards it, if you believe God is not forgiving the world, neither are you.
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Old 11-06-2011, 10:51 AM
 
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Half true, you forgot about Christ and the cross.



Half true, God saw the sins and offered a way out, it is up to you to accept or deny.



Half true, Sin is what blocks you from God, Christ is the bridge threw sin for those who will believe.



Half true,Man forgives nothing, only God can forgive.



Half true,Reconciling is for the believer for growth and for the unbeliever for salvation.



Both.
This post does not deserve an answer.
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Old 11-06-2011, 10:57 AM
 
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God is not against anyone but He will not forgive the unbeliever. What God is against is sin and He offers everyone the chance to be forgiven, just believe in Christ. If you are in Christ your sins are forgiven if you deny Christ you are still accountable for your sins.
Of cause He is against it, if he is holding it's sin against it. Did you not learn nothing from the parable of the wicked servant who held the debt he was owed,against the debtor and had him thrown in prison.
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Old 11-06-2011, 10:57 AM
 
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This post does not deserve an answer.
That is because Half truths are dangerous and you don't want to see the damage your half truths cause. Spirit verses flesh my friend and you need to stop letting the flesh control your opinion.
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Old 11-06-2011, 10:58 AM
 
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That is because Half truths are dangerous and you don't want to see the damage your half truths cause. Spirit verses flesh my friend and you need to stop letting the flesh control your opinion.
It is because your unforgiveness towards the world is very apparent.
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