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Old 11-06-2011, 06:47 AM
 
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This is the way he brings you to the knowledge of your Salvation

God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself not counting people's sin against them 2 Cor 5 19


To give his people the knowledge of salvation
***through the forgiveness of their sins,
because of the tender mercy of our God,


***by which the rising sun will come to us from heaven
to shine on those living in darkness
***and in the shadow of death,
to guide our feet into the path of peace.” Luke 1:77-79

Do you see where the primary location of Salvation is spoken about ?, in your heart in the here and now.Quit thinking that it's some future event,this will only lead to neglecting your Salvation Today.


One of the very last things Jesus uttered on the Cross he was nailed to by barbaric men was.......Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. Now I know you evangelical fundamentalists believe we need to do something to evoke the forgiveness of God, but these words uttered by Jesus proves otherwise, there was no one at the foot of the cross asking for it.

Believe that God is not holding your sin against you, you will enter into the life changing knowledge of the Salvation of God,and the promise is, He will guide our feet in the path of peace in this life
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Old 11-06-2011, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Florida
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For the sake of clarity, lets make sure people understand the author is talking about believers when he says "people"

So from now on we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer. 17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come:[a] The old has gone, the new is here! 18 All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: 19 that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting people’s sins against them
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Old 11-06-2011, 07:13 AM
 
Location: New England
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For the sake of clarity, lets make sure people understand the author is talking about believers when he says "people"

So from now on we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer. 17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come:[a] The old has gone, the new is here! 18 All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: 19 that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting people’s sins against them
You are standing in the way of the good news. You are an enemy of the good news.

We as ambassadors have a message of reconciliation which is "God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself , not counting the sin of the people against them'.

Is this message to the reconciled or those who need to be reconciled through the knowledge that God is not counting their sin against them ?.
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Old 11-06-2011, 07:21 AM
 
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You are standing in the way of the good news. You are an enemy of the good news.

We as ambassadors have a message of reconciliation which is "God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself , not counting the sin of the people against them'.

Is this message to the reconciled or those who need to be reconciled through the knowledge that God is not counting their sin against them ?.
Partial truth is as good as a lie. Tell the whole truth, or don't tell anything.
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Old 11-06-2011, 07:26 AM
 
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Partial truth is as good as a lie. Tell the whole truth, or don't tell anything.
I am not going to let you hijack this thread.

And will not answer any further question from you until you acknowledge that the message of the ambassadors is to the unbeliever,which is ,"God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself, not counting the sin of the people against them".
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Old 11-06-2011, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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It's nothing but pure egoic/carnal arrogance and pride to believe that you have it all figured out...that the truth you've come to believe is the absolute truth...and anyone else, who doesn't agree with you, is wrong or lying. The Good News turns into Bad News with ones such as these.
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Old 11-06-2011, 07:31 AM
 
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I am not going to let you hijack this thread.

And will not answer any further question from you until you acknowledge that the message of the ambassadors is to the unbeliever,which is ,"God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself, not counting the sin of the people against them".
I am not allowed to address the topic?

It is telling you are offended when someone provides context to your cherry picked verse.

I think people deserve to know the whole truth, and the fact that your message is a cherry picked verse presented only to promote a false teaching.
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Old 11-06-2011, 07:33 AM
 
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It's nothing but pure egoic/carnal arrogance and pride to believe that you have it all figured out...that the truth you've come to believe is the absolute truth...and anyone else, who doesn't agree with you, is wrong or lying. The Good News turns into Bad News with ones such as these.
How about you just agree with the verses I quoted (including the ones pcamps left out), and leave the name calling and personal jabs out of it. Just an idea.
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Old 11-06-2011, 07:39 AM
 
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I am not allowed to address the topic?

I think people deserve to know the whole truth, and the fact that your message is a cherry picked verse presented only to promote a false teaching.
You can say what you want on this thread, but you will not hijack it, and you will get no further response from me until you acknowledge that the believer who is an ambassador of the message of reconciliation, which is "God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself, not counting the sin of the people against them", is a message to the unbeliever.
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Old 11-06-2011, 07:47 AM
 
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You can say what you want on this thread, but you will not hijack it, and you will get no further response from me until you acknowledge that the believer who is an ambassador of the message of reconciliation, which is "God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself, not counting the sin of the people against them", is a message to the unbeliever.
LOL LOL . If you don't want to talk to me, then don't.

I provided the verses so quit spinning it. The verses prove God will not count the sins against people who are born again aka made new. It is all there in the verses. You are trying to sell it as if no ones sins will be counted against them, but that is simply NOT what the verses say. If you are made new, then, your sins will not be counted against you.

So from now on we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer. 17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come:[a] The old has gone, the new is here! 18 All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: 19 that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting people’s sins against them
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