The greatest gift from God. (churches, Messiah, Revelation, believe)
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When I was a very young child I remember when one of our pets died, someone remarked with shock that it's sibling was showing no remorse. I didn't think that was completely true. I have seen animals showing sadness when their friend dies. But I do believe they get over it pretty quickly. They are realists. They understand that they have to find new friends. They know that they have no choice.
The problem with many human beings is that they often never get over family or friends that they have lost. And that to me is one of the greatest tragedies of life. God has given us the gift of life wherever we find it. If we follow God's way, we can find new friends and loved ones to replace those who have passed. Sadly, some people live with the false hope that they will reunite with past loved ones, because they have not accepted the truth. Some people don't even want to get a new pet when they have lost one.
But even the character of the messiah, while he was on the cross, told his mother to behold her new son, which was one of his disciples. He himself was giving her a "replacement" for himself. If you read that the way I think it was intended, it is a very different message than what the evangelical churches have always taught. They don't realize that the same spirit is found in everyone. The bad thing is that I believe they are trying to live on false hope. But because many of them have the same desires and hopes, and encourage each other with them whenever they meet, they don't consider that those might be false hopes.
They can't even accept God's greatest gift. It is the one miracle they don't believe in.
Personally I don't understand what you are exactly trying to say. Are you saying the greatest gift, is to grieve the loss of a person you love, then being able to get over it quickly and move on with your life. Everybody grieves different than the next person, and you just can't compare people to animals on how they grieve. What is the false hope you are referring to?
Are you saying the greatest gift, is to grieve the loss of a person you love, then being able to get over it quickly and move on with your life[?] Everybody grieves different than the next person, and you just can't compare people to animals on how they grieve. What is the false hope you are referring to?
Yes, grieving process has no time limit. It runs it course differently for different people... but the false hope OzzyRules refers to appears to be: his perceived false hope that we'll eventually link back up with departed friends and family, when letting them go to embrace new family and friends is where it at on an advancing spiritual level.
Could be wrong here, though that's how it's coming across: Let them go, move on, fully embrace the new when you're able to.
Yes, grieving process has no time limit. It runs it course differently for different people... but the false hope OzzyRules refers to appears to be: his perceived false hope that we'll eventually link back up with departed friends and family, when letting them go to embrace new family and friends is where it at on an advancing spiritual level.
Could be wrong here, though that's how it's coming across: Let them go, move on, fully embrace the new when you're able to.
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Thanks for your viewpoint, still would like to hear from the OP also.
When I was a very young child I remember when one of our pets died, someone remarked with shock that it's sibling was showing no remorse. I didn't think that was completely true. I have seen animals showing sadness when their friend dies. But I do believe they get over it pretty quickly. They are realists. They understand that they have to find new friends. They know that they have no choice.
The problem with many human beings is that they often never get over family or friends that they have lost. And that to me is one of the greatest tragedies of life. God has given us the gift of life wherever we find it. If we follow God's way, we can find new friends and loved ones to replace those who have passed. Sadly, some people live with the false hope that they will reunite with past loved ones, because they have not accepted the truth. Some people don't even want to get a new pet when they have lost one.
But even the character of the messiah, while he was on the cross, told his mother to behold her new son, which was one of his disciples. He himself was giving her a "replacement" for himself. If you read that the way I think it was intended, it is a very different message than what the evangelical churches have always taught. They don't realize that the same spirit is found in everyone. The bad thing is that I believe they are trying to live on false hope. But because many of them have the same desires and hopes, and encourage each other with them whenever they meet, they don't consider that those might be false hopes.
They can't even accept God's greatest gift. It is the one miracle they don't believe in.
What do you think?
I don't think anyone quite "gets" what your point is, exactly? Maybe you could elaborate a little more? Thanks. Peace
Yes, grieving process has no time limit. It runs it course differently for different people... but the false hope OzzyRules refers to appears to be: his perceived false hope that we'll eventually link back up with departed friends and family, when letting them go to embrace new family and friends is where it at on an advancing spiritual level.
Could be wrong here, though that's how it's coming across: Let them go, move on, fully embrace the new when you're able to.
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Yes. That's a good way of putting it. Revelation says that the light of the "sun and moon" will no longer be needed. The sun and moon refers to our parents, whom most people will lose in their lifetime.
Yes. That's a good way of putting it. Revelation says that the light of the "sun and moon" will no longer be needed. The sun and moon refers to our parents, whom most people will lose in their lifetime.
Both of my parents are gone, and I certainly look forward to seeing them again on the other side. I don't believe you totally ever get completely over it, but you just learn to deal with it and accept it as time goes on.
Both of my parents are gone, and I certainly look forward to seeing them again on the other side. I don't believe you totally ever get completely over it, but you just learn to deal with it and accept it as time goes on.
It took me roughly 30 minutes to grieve the loss of my father. It was the worst 30 minutes of my life. I didn't think I would ever be able to face such a thing. Anytime in my life up to that point in time, prior to that 30 minute segment of time, I felt the same way.
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