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Old 01-09-2012, 03:35 PM
 
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Through the bible ONLY Today-------Matthew 4:4.

Through the bible ONLY Today----------Luke 4:4

Through the bible ONLY Today---------John 6:63

Through the bible ONLY Today---------Psalms 119:105

Through the bible ONLY Today----------John 14:26

Through the bible ONLY Today----------James 1:5

Through the bible ONLY Today-------------1 John 2:27

Through the bible ONLY Today-------------2 Timothy 2:15

Through the bible ONLY Today------------Jeremiah 10:23

Through the bible ONLY Today---------Romans 10:17

It's not a 3rd person in the Godhead-------John 4:24

God not a 2nd person in the Godhead-------John 8:24

God spoke the Holy Spirit into existence with the bible---John 6:63

It spoke Jesus into existence in the flesh------John 1:1, 14

Jesus don't have anybody over him to confirm who he is----John 14:9

He only have his self over himself to confirm who he is------Matt. 3:17

Jesus actually talks to himself------Psalms 110:1

God actually talks to himself----------Psalms 110:1

His geneology background is just him in the flesh----John 8:58

The real Jesus don't have a beginning and end----Hebrews 7:3

The real Jesus submits to nobody but himself-----Hebrews 7:3

Lord talking to himself is Lord-------Psalms 110:1

Lord listening to himself is lord------Psalms 110:1

No 2 people in the conversation-----John 14:9

Through God talking in all the bible all the time-------2 Peter 1:20-21

Through his inspired message that he allowed great men of God to write over time-------2 Timothy 3:16

The Holy Spirit is very personal in answering all the concerns going on in our life today------John 14:26 and Psalms 119:105

It tells you how lost you are without his wisdom all the time---Jer. 10:23

It tells you what you are w/o his wisdom-----Isaiah 64:6

It makes no mistake putting water baptism in the bible----John 3:5

It makes no mistake making the Sabbath for today still----Hebrews 4

It makes no mistake saying grace is not free----Romans 6:1

It makes no mistake having old law at first----John 1:17

It makes not mistake having new law replace old law----John 1:17

It makes no mistake with women rules in the church
today-------1 Cor. 14:34-35 and 1 Timothy 2:9-14

It makes no mistake with tongue rules in the church
today------ALL of 1 Cor. 14

It makes no mistake with Christian attire today-----1 Peter 3:3
and 1 Timothy 2:9-14

The Holy Spirit is not the opinion of what man say about the bible anywhere------2 Peter 1:20-21

The Holy Spirit has nothing to do with going to seculiar school and getting a degree------1 John 2:27

The Holy Spirit does not have infant Christians bible amateurs too long------2 Cor. 4:3 and Titus 3:10

It doesn't divide the body of Christ into 100 faiths of Christianity------Ephesians 4:5 and 1 Cor. 1

It doesn't make you too dependent on a big shot to hear from God------Matthew 15:14 and Romans 10:17

It doesn't have a Christian vulnerable to any slick talking leader to follow-----Matthew 15:14 and Gal. 1:8-9

It doesn't say you can know a Christian in 5 minutes so fast-----1 Thess. 5:12 and 2 Timothy 3:16

It doesn't say every nice Joe is your brethren in Christ-----Matthew 5:18-20

It doesn't say a 90% bible believer is your brethren in Christ------John 8:31

It doesn't say a 1 on 1 with God is a relationship with the heavenly Father only----John 17:21 and Psalms 133:1

It doens't say fellowship in Christ is meetings in the name of God with people only-----Amos 3:3 and 2 Cor. 6 and Matthew 7:6

It doesn't say everybody off of drugs and alcohol is a Christian-----John 8:31

It doesn't say the devil doesn't have testimonies too------1 Cor. 13:1-3

It doesn't say leave 10% of the bible alone before you lose friends with people----2 Timothy 3:16

It doesn't say Christians are friends to everybody cause their saved----Luke 6:26 and Matthew 10:34-37

It doesn't say Christians are on a worldwide mission to everybody----Matthew 7:6

It doesn't say Christians are fasting and praying for everybody saved and free from bondage----John 17:9

It doesn't say Christians have the best families in the world to share their Christian faith----Matthew 10:34-37

As always the goal is unity with 100% bible believers not hatred and criticism----Matthew 5:6 and John 17:21 and Amos 3:3 and 2 Cor. 6 .

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Old 01-09-2012, 03:46 PM
 
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Through the bible ONLY Today
Nope



Quote:
God spoke the Holy Spirit into existence with the bible---John 6:63
The evidence seems to be against that, since Jesus spoke the words before they were ever written down.

The scripture may be a written witness to that end, but the bible was never needed for the spirit to work and it is not "needed" now.

That does not prevent the holy spirit from working through the bible, it certainly can and DOES but it is not the only thing it works through.

Don't confuse Gods word in the spirit with pages from a written translation.
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Old 01-11-2012, 03:15 PM
 
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Nope

Yes Genesis says God verbally spoke things into existence.
Good point on your part I should have thought of more precisely.

I said the Holy Spirit speaks things into existence with the bible as I was referring to John 1:14 and John 6:63.

The bible being the Holy Spirit according to John 6:63 and according to
John 1:1, 14 the Word was with God and was God and it goes on to say the Word was made flesh according to apostle John.

Since the bible is the Holy Spirit and God is the Word and Holy Spirit
according to John 4:24 then we can conclude that the Holy Spirit spoke
things into existence or being with the written bible.

What God or Jesus say he put into a bible book---2 Timothy 3:16

Even dreams we get the bible talk about according to the book of Acts.

Fair to say the Holy Spirit is the vast majority of time expressed though the bible not a rare dream that may be of God.

Certainly not a voice in our head with intuition of what we think is God expressing himself-----Jeremiah 10:23

Our intuition of God can't examine what is of God without the
bible----Jeremiah 10:23

It's not spiritual just philosophical ---Jeremiah 10:23

It's not spiritual just intellectual in the wisdom of man-----Jeremiah 10:23

Certainly be lieing if I said the wisdom of man is so great----Psalms 8:4

Wisdom of God is not conveyed through inner voice speculation
today-----Jeremiah 10:23

Rather conveyed through bible voice speculation----Romans 10:17

Speculating God talking in the bible is not random game of
guessing to succeed with God-----John 8:32

The fundamentals stay the same; if we study like the bible say
then he will unfold his wisdom to us in the bible----1 John 2:27

It's not your pastor's job to do this but your job to study
instead----1 John 2:27

While people are more gifted then others with some of the gifts of the Holy Spirit he does not keep infant Christians at the vulnerable of any
slick talking leader that wants to be over somebody with a
ministry-----Matthew 15:14 and Ephesians 4:14.

It takes more then a nice Joe for a child of God to be under somebody
that's a pastor---Matthew 15:14 and Ephesians 4:14.

This true for even an infant Christian in the Lord-----1 John 2:27

Being an infant does not mean a child of God does not know a shepherd
from a goat with all of the bible-----Matthew 15:14 and 1 John 2:27






The evidence seems to be against that, since Jesus spoke the words before they were ever written down.

The scripture may be a written witness to that end, but the bible was never needed for the spirit to work and it is not "needed" now.

That does not prevent the holy spirit from working through the bible, it certainly can and DOES but it is not the only thing it works through.

Don't confuse Gods word in the spirit with pages from a written translation.
kkk
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