The catholic was not the 1st church! (Gospel, doctrine, believe)

[Saltandlight]

The catholic church was started in 325 ad.

Christ established his Church in ad 33.

Peter was not the first pope.

When Christ said i will give YOU the keys to the Kingdom of heaven he was talking to all of the apostles because he said in the gospel of John that all would believe on him through the apostles doctrine.

The keys we're not physical keys to a building they we're the Gospel. The doctrin that would come from God through the Holy spirit to the apostles.

God is the only one that can add you to His Church.

He does so when you Obey his Gospel.

The catholic church was however the first denomination.

[Verna Perry]

Originally Posted by Saltandlight

The catholic church was started in 325 ad.

Christ established his Church in ad 33.

Peter was not the first pope.

When Christ said i will give YOU the keys to the Kingdom of heaven he was talking to all of the apostles because he said in the gospel of John that all would believe on him through the apostles doctrine.

The keys we're not physical keys to a building they we're the Gospel. The doctrin that would come from God through the Holy spirit to the apostles.

God is the only one that can add you to His Church.

He does so when you Obey his Gospel.

The catholic church was however the first denomination.

Amen!

[Saltandlight]

Hi Verna. Hope we get some good discussion going here.

[Julian658]

Originally Posted by Saltandlight

The catholic church was however the first denomination.

You shoot yourself in the foot by admitting that .

Church or religion is man made. And the Catholic church preserved Christianity by being the 1st church (or denomination).

[Saltandlight]

Originally Posted by Julian658

You shoot yourself in the foot by admitting that .

Church or religion is man made. And the Catholic church preserved Christianity by being the 1st church (or denomination).

The Church that Christ established was not a denomination.

A denomination is a division of the whole.

The Church Jesus established was complete in him and he is the head.

It is not man made.

The catholic church in it's beginnings persecuted true christians because they would not leave the Church Christ established and join with them.

Christ preserved christianity when he said in Matt. 16:18 I will build my church and the gates of hades shall not overcome it.

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by Saltandlight

The catholic church was however the first denomination.

I think you're wrong about that. It may be the earliest one which continues to exist today. It may be the earliest one we have a name for. But there were literally dozens of differing groups of Christians by the end of the first century. I don't know what you'd call them, but I'd call them denominations.

[GoodToBeHome]

So whatever gets voted for more is the truth, huh? Appears to be typical protestant methodology to arrive at the truth. The majority agrees to a new false doctrine and the minority break off and start there own denomination. Par.

[DNick]

Originally Posted by GoodToBeHome

So whatever gets voted for more is the truth, huh? Appears to be typical protestant methodology to arrive at the truth. The majority agrees to a new false doctrine and the minority break off and start there own denomination. Par.

Amen.

[Richard1965]

Originally Posted by Saltandlight

The catholic church was started in 325 ad.

Christ established his Church in ad 33.

Peter was not the first pope.

When Christ said i will give YOU the keys to the Kingdom of heaven he was talking to all of the apostles because he said in the gospel of John that all would believe on him through the apostles doctrine.

The keys we're not physical keys to a building they we're the Gospel. The doctrin that would come from God through the Holy spirit to the apostles.

God is the only one that can add you to His Church.

He does so when you Obey his Gospel.

The catholic church was however the first denomination.

catholic simply means universal...Nad it is not you who gats added to the body for obeying the Gospel but it is Yehovaw Elohim Hawyaw that has added you to the body from the beginning and at His pre-appointed time called you and opened your eyes unto belief and saved you and added you to His body of believers...You can take no part or credit in this...at all...It is His Grace...

[Richard1965]

Originally Posted by Saltandlight

The Church that Christ established was not a denomination.

A denomination is a division of the whole.

The Church Jesus established was complete in him and he is the head.

It is not man made.

The catholic church in it's beginnings persecuted true christians because they would not leave the Church Christ established and join with them.

Christ preserved christianity when he said in Matt. 16:18 I will build my church and the gates of hades shall not overcome it.

You need a deeper study of these things...catholic is not a denomination...

cath·o·lic   /ˈkæθəlɪk, ˈkæθlɪk/ Show Spelled[kath-uh-lik, kath-lik] Show IPA
adjective
1. broad or wide-ranging in tastes, interests, or the like; having sympathies with all; broad-minded; liberal.
2. universal in extent; involving all; of interest to all.
3. pertaining to the whole Christian body or church.
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Origin:
1300–1350; Middle English < Latin catholicus < Greek katholikós general, equivalent to kathól ( ou ) universally (contraction of phrase katà hólou according to the whole; see cata-, holo-) + -ikos -ic

The Roman Emperor Constantine established himself as the head of the church around 313 A.D., which made this new "Christianity" the official religion of the Roman Empire. The first actual Pope in Rome was probably Leo I (440-461 A.D.), although some claim that Gregory I was the first (590-604 A.D.). This ungodly system eventually ushered in the darkest period of history known to man, properly known as the "Dark Ages" (500-1500 A.D.). Through popes, bishops, and priests, Satan ruled Europe, and Biblical Christianity became illegal. - http://www.av1611.org/jmelton/Catholic.html