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Old 09-13-2007, 10:14 AM
 
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I was wondering....lots of my friends believe in Jesus, however, they do not go to church on Sundays, pray, etc. They just believe that Jesus was God and that's it. In the Bible, it says that all that believe in Him will be saved.

So, are these people saved? Just wondering
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Old 09-13-2007, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Indiana
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Believing is the first part of it. The Bible also says "we will know them by their fruits". Are your friends living fruitful Christian lives? I don't know them, but it doesn't sound like it.

btw:The devil believes that Jesus is God. Just believing doesn't necessarily mean anything.
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Old 09-13-2007, 10:26 AM
 
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going to church is not a requirement of being saved...putting your faith is Jesus is..My belief boils done to this, the ABC s of becoming a Christian..
ABC's of Salvation (http://www.pixi.com/~mysc/abc.html - broken link)
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Old 09-13-2007, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Texas
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btw:The devil believes that Jesus is God. Just believing doesn't necessarily mean anything.
I agree here. The belief that the Bible seems to be talking about that Christians sometimes call "saving faith" includes "C" (under arguy's ABC's of salvation he posted) which includes acknowledging that Jesus will be Lord of our life as well as savior. Do we do that perfectly? No, but from the point we give the Lord our lives and we are given the seal of the Holy Spirit, He begins to sanctify us. That's kaykay's opinion anyway!
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Old 09-13-2007, 10:37 AM
 
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thanks for the posts...still not quite sure what to think, but I'm working on it
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Old 09-13-2007, 10:48 AM
 
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I agree with dojilynn, arguy and kaykay! Truly believing in the Lord is more than just acknowledging that He exists. As far as being saved without knowing it, I have been aquainted with several instances where a person who was not brought up or taught the Christian way, had an experience of where they gave everything to God, not really realizing that they were "born again." However, this was evident in their life by their fruits and desire to learn more about the Lord, eventually leading them to Christians. Then it all became clear to them what really had happened. God's power is great!
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Old 09-13-2007, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I agree with dojilynn, arguy and kaykay! Truly believing in the Lord is more than just acknowledging that He exists. As far as being saved without knowing it, I have been aquainted with several instances where a person who was not brought up or taught the Christian way, had an experience of where they gave everything to God, not really realizing that they were "born again." However, this was evident in their life by their fruits and desire to learn more about the Lord, eventually leading them to Christians. Then it all became clear to them what really had happened. God's power is great!
Yes, and I also think that many Christians struggle with doubts about their salvation but are indeed genuinely saved, but this isn't the scenario, of course, that Texas Nick seemed to addressing. So... IMHO it is definitely possible to be saved and not know it, but...you would know that you had and desired a relationship with Christ, ya know?
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Old 09-13-2007, 10:55 AM
 
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but...you would know that you had and desired a relationship with Christ, ya know?
Right! The Lord doesn't save you and then just abandon you... He wants to lead everyone deeper into the truth.
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Old 09-13-2007, 11:18 AM
 
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And you don't just accidentally get saved. You may have made a decision to live by godly principles like cg81 mentioned, or you have given your life to Christ. Either involves a deliberate decision. You can't (in this society imo) be a Christian and not know it. This society is so filled with Christian influence that even if you are not wise to the innerworkings of Christianity, you would know about making the decision.
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:16 PM
 
Location: God's Country
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And you don't just accidentally get saved. You may have made a decision to live by godly principles like cg81 mentioned, or you have given your life to Christ. Either involves a deliberate decision. You can't (in this society imo) be a Christian and not know it. This society is so filled with Christian influence that even if you are not wise to the innerworkings of Christianity, you would know about making the decision.
I agree, it's more than just head knowledge, it's heart knowledge, asking Jesus to forgive you of your sins, then repenting and turning away from those sins. Change of heart
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