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Old 04-18-2012, 05:21 AM
 
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Do you know who said this?

"You Are The One Who Killed Christ.
Your Sins Certainly Did,
And When You See The Nails Driven Through His Hands,
Be Sure You Are Pounding.
And When The Thornes Pierce His Brow Know That
They Are Your Evil Thoughts."

Martin Luther -

And We Did All This For Our Self, Right?

What happened to Savlation is a Gift?
Or, Jesus saying no one took His life but He layed it down?
Or, God so loved the world that He Gave His only begotten Son?
Or, The Lamb 0f God being His Sacrifice?

Catholics,
I am not The Whipping Post for Christ.

I am His Reward.
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Old 04-18-2012, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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To the OP: That doesn't sound like M. Luther?? It could be if it was written early in his career. Some of his earlier writtings are not the best quality. Could you please give the attestation, that is where did you get this. What is your source of information? What is the document, and when was it written?

HOwever, I completely disagree. I know quite a few former Roman Catholics that are members of my Lutheran church. I even have some former Roman Catholic friends who are Lutheran pastors.
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Old 04-18-2012, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Twin Cities
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So what's going to happen when a Catholic sees non-Catholics in heaven? Is all hell gonna break loose?
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Old 04-18-2012, 07:18 AM
 
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So what's going to happen when a Catholic sees non-Catholics in heaven? Is all hell gonna break loose?
I did not claim, nor have I ever claimed
such as this, to be 0f Any Salvation Issue.

If you want to make Salvation your issue?
Please start another post topic for that topic.
Thanks.
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Old 04-18-2012, 07:22 AM
 
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To the OP: That doesn't sound like M. Luther?? It could be if it was written early in his career. Some of his earlier writtings are not the best quality. Could you please give the attestation, that is where did you get this. What is your source of information? What is the document, and when was it written?

HOwever, I completely disagree. I know quite a few former Roman Catholics that are members of my Lutheran church. I even have some former Roman Catholic friends who are Lutheran pastors.
This quote of Martin Luther
is being Hailed and Praised as
THE present Truth at Christianity dot com.

When I questioned it? They removed my post.
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Old 04-18-2012, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Someplace Wonderful
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Well...... I have not been a practicing Catholic for some 40 years plus...

That said, I find myself much more appreciative of Catholic doctrine, Catholic theology these days than I was way back when. Doctrines like the Seven Deadly Sins are amazing pieces of Catholic thought. In fact I pity the protestant denominations who threw the baby out with the bathwater, to coin a phrase, because they have lost the wealth of Christian thought developed over the years of the middle ages.

There was a lot of wisdom and value in those abandoned doctrines.
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Old 04-18-2012, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Catholics are not that much different than let's say a Luthern or a faith that your were essentially born into and gennerally will ride out since you don't know better or learn to care about knowing any better. Catholics are christian for the most part for beliveing in Jesus and as for the rest its the twilite zone relived scriptural-less,mediator filled,ritualistic quasi-paganism that goes unchecked ,unrecognized and cloaked in tradition leaving its flock cluess, but nice. It is a miracle that I escaped the bondage of Catholicism in spite of all its wonderful and loving clergy,great education and adoration shown to all its icons and saints not withstanding God. Upon discovering the perversions of the early church dogmas and bureaucracy albeit early church fathers errors, I finally discovered christanity (scripturally centered) out weighed the nonesense of religion.

Das
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Old 04-18-2012, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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Revelation Writer: Thank you for being honest. I've read quite a bit of his writtings. His commentary on the Psalms are not great, but what I've read of most of his stuff after about 1520, its excellent. Not at all like the rubish that web site published. Have a great day.
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Old 04-18-2012, 08:34 PM
 
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So what's going to happen when a Catholic sees non-Catholics in heaven? Is all hell gonna break loose?
I reply: Catholic's teach: "ALL men can go to heaven, not just Catholic's!"

It is the protestant that says... "You MUST take Jesus as you lord and savior"; that say; "Only "THEY" protestants can enter heaven"!

Protestantism leave most of all the world out of heaven until the "Protestant "de-Formation" sixteen hundred years AFTER Jesus!

Protestantism leaves most people out of heaven until the printing press, Seventeen Hundred years after Jesus!

Protestantism leave most all peoples out of heaven that can't read or people that have never heard of Jesus!

Catholic's are CHRISTIAN!
Christians believe the scriptures!

"God is LOVE"!

Man was made in God' image, only man can LOVE!
All men that LOVE have God inside of them.. all men that LOVE go to heaven.. Not just the protestant!

Dad_loves_to_cook So you stand corrected!

Dogknox
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Old 04-18-2012, 08:44 PM
 
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Catholics are not that much different than let's say a Luthern or a faith that your were essentially born into and gennerally will ride out since you don't know better or learn to care about knowing any better. Catholics are christian for the most part for beliveing in Jesus and as for the rest its the twilite zone relived scriptural-less,mediator filled,ritualistic quasi-paganism that goes unchecked ,unrecognized and cloaked in tradition leaving its flock cluess, but nice. It is a miracle that I escaped the bondage of Catholicism in spite of all its wonderful and loving clergy,great education and adoration shown to all its icons and saints not withstanding God. Upon discovering the perversions of the early church dogmas and bureaucracy albeit early church fathers errors, I finally discovered christanity (scripturally centered) out weighed the nonesense of religion.

Das
Ha.. You are funny!!!
DASULAR17 You left the TRUTH.. for the LIE of man made religion!

Jesus formed ONE Church and it was not a protestant church!
There was NO protestants or protestant churches for Sixteen Hundred years AFTER Jesus!

Jesus is "ALWAYS WITH" his Church; Even to the very end of the age!
ALWAYS WITH, meaning he is NOT, he cannot be with yours! To think different you must reject the scriptures.. "God' WORDS!"
For you to think different you must believe God tells lies!

I am CHRISTIAN.. Christians believe the scriptures!
DASULAR17 For you to reject the Catholic Church you might as well toss you bible out your window..
Historical FACT: The Catholic Church made the bible! She ALONE with God' help removed all the un-scriptural, non inspired books, then placed all the INSPIRED manuscripts into one book, She named her book; "The Bible"!

You can't trust the Holy Catholic Church got it right???!... How can you be sure The Bible is the "Words of God??"

Dogknox
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