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Old 04-27-2012, 04:46 PM
 
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Seldom do I ask a question.

So when I do, it is for real.
Not a trick question.
I really want to know if anyone here knows.

HOW the "Oneness" doctrine teaches about The Trinity?

Yes, I will look it up and search it out by myself if I have to.

But I was just wondering if their is anyone here
who is 'Oneness' or knows about this teaching.

I could ask someone in my family.
But then that may open a door that has already been shut in my face.

Thanks.
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Old 04-27-2012, 08:23 PM
 
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these are all just concepts , differnt concepts tath differnt people have become attached to and worship.
we worship conditions of the mind.. we worship our egos .. we worship idols of what we think we are.. we dont even realise it..

we are all the same thing, the same life, the thoughts that we have about who we are , are not who we are.. even the thoughts of the beliefs that we are so attached to.. the stories that we are attached to.. we are none of these things.. none of these mind questions can ever get us to the place we long for.. freedom to live, fully, eternally every moment.. instead of following dead thougths and objects of the mind, truth is eternal. not trapped by the mind or in any of its thougths or beliefs
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Old 04-27-2012, 08:37 PM
 
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Seldom do I ask a question.

So when I do, it is for real.
Not a trick question.
I really want to know if anyone here knows.

HOW the "Oneness" doctrine teaches about The Trinity?

Yes, I will look it up and search it out by myself if I have to.

But I was just wondering if their is anyone here
who is 'Oneness' or knows about this teaching.

I could ask someone in my family.
But then that may open a door that has already been shut in my face.

Thanks.
They are Pentecostal.....
Oneness groups are decidedly Arminian in the doctrine of salvation. They deny predestination and maintain that it is completely up to the individual to decide whether or not he wants to be saved.
They also teach that it is possible to lose one's salvation.

From what I read they do not believe in the Trinity... they believe and teach that God is a single person who was manifested as Father in creation and as the Father of the Son, in the Son for our redemption, and as the Holy Spirit in our regeneration.
Their theology teaches that God revealed himself as Father in the Old Testament, as the Son in Jesus during Christ’s ministry on earth, and now as the Holy Spirit after Christ’s ascension.

They are strong believer's in the teaching of speaking in tongues and the Oneness church members believe it is the evidence they are saved..... and that it is a necessary manifestation of the Holy Spirit.... in their members. They believe it demonstrates that they are saved and have the truth.

Oneness theology also believe that baptism is a necessary part of salvation; that is, in order to be saved, one must be baptized, by immersion. If you are not baptized you cannot be saved. And that it must also be administered with the formula "In Jesus’ name" rather than the formula "In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit."
Also this baptism must be administered by a duly ordained minister of a church that maintains oneness theology: United Pentecostal, United Apostolic, etc.

There is within the Oneness movement teaching that they themselves should always act in a modest and holy manner. They lean very strong in that women are required to abstain from wearing makeup and pants. They also must have their heads covered. Likewise, men should be well-dressed, preferably in a suit.
I believe that such practices are not wrong in themselves, however, when they become requirements for acceptance in a church, it is legalistic and we know that legalism leads to bondage and the requirements of keeping the law to maintain salvation.
The Oneness churches also are very strong and imply that if you go to movies, or have a TV, or wear makeup, etc., then you are not "really" a Christian....

Blessings and do hope this helps...
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Old 04-27-2012, 08:42 PM
 
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Thanks it does
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Old 04-28-2012, 04:22 AM
 
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Oneness is poor understanding of the miracle of the incarnation of Father to the earth were Jesus was born and His Ascension to Heaven to be with the Father and were the Holy spirit is God spirit in the earth , are one ...... were oneness Pentecostalism may avoid understanding of the Father part of God and say Jesus is Father God ....... See it is like a non-spiritual understanding of logic of this world were sees things in the physical ideas of the flesh ..... ... Basically Christians pray to the Father God , in Jesus name , and Holy Spirit will bring the answer through Jesus Words, and this is the wisdom from Heaven ..... We should never pray to Holy Spirit or to Jesus , as Holy Spirit will not be glorified and Jesus glorifies the Father God ..... All power from Heaven and the earth are given to Jesus as He is the mediator for all salvation ...and this powers come from the creator Father God , who is omni -present through God spirit who hold the Power for delivery to the Earth
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Old 06-02-2012, 05:48 AM
 
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Oneness doctrine is that Jesus (Yeshua) is the visible manifestation of God the Father. There is one God with one visible manifestation, the man Christ Jesus. Oneness starts with the foundation that God is one person rather than three. If Jesus is God he is the only one who is.

Makes good sense to me.
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Old 06-03-2012, 11:28 PM
 
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Oneness doctrine is that Jesus (Yeshua) is the visible manifestation of God the Father. There is one God with one visible manifestation, the man Christ Jesus. Oneness starts with the foundation that God is one person rather than three. If Jesus is God he is the only one who is.

Makes good sense to me.
... until you get to John 17. Was Jesus praying to Himself in that chapter?
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Old 06-04-2012, 06:34 AM
 
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God's 'Word Became Flesh' - John 1:14

Not God.
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Old 06-04-2012, 06:43 AM
 
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Oneness doctrine is that Jesus (Yeshua) is the visible manifestation of God the Father. There is one God with one visible manifestation, the man Christ Jesus. Oneness starts with the foundation that God is one person rather than three. If Jesus is God he is the only one who is.

Makes good sense to me.
They believe that Yeshua is the Son and that Yehovaw is the Father...Two distinct individuals...They question if Yeshua ia Yehovaw, then why would He pray to Himself?...Yehsua is the Son of the Father just as you are the son of your father...I work with one ...He claims to have preached to hundreds...I am not sure how long he was in it, but from what i can tell, he started preaching almost right after he was saved, which ignores the Scriptures that state that if you have the desire then sit under a learned elder in the Faith...Paul also says not to suffer a young one to teach, that is young in the Faith not physically...
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Old 06-04-2012, 06:43 AM
 
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They are Pentecostal.....
Oneness groups are decidedly Arminian in the doctrine of salvation. They deny predestination and maintain that it is completely up to the individual to decide whether or not he wants to be saved.
They also teach that it is possible to lose one's salvation.

From what I read they do not believe in the Trinity... they believe and teach that God is a single person who was manifested as Father in creation and as the Father of the Son, in the Son for our redemption, and as the Holy Spirit in our regeneration.
Their theology teaches that God revealed himself as Father in the Old Testament, as the Son in Jesus during Christ’s ministry on earth, and now as the Holy Spirit after Christ’s ascension.

They are strong believer's in the teaching of speaking in tongues and the Oneness church members believe it is the evidence they are saved..... and that it is a necessary manifestation of the Holy Spirit.... in their members. They believe it demonstrates that they are saved and have the truth.

Oneness theology also believe that baptism is a necessary part of salvation; that is, in order to be saved, one must be baptized, by immersion. If you are not baptized you cannot be saved. And that it must also be administered with the formula "In Jesus’ name" rather than the formula "In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit."
Also this baptism must be administered by a duly ordained minister of a church that maintains oneness theology: United Pentecostal, United Apostolic, etc.

There is within the Oneness movement teaching that they themselves should always act in a modest and holy manner. They lean very strong in that women are required to abstain from wearing makeup and pants. They also must have their heads covered. Likewise, men should be well-dressed, preferably in a suit.
I believe that such practices are not wrong in themselves, however, when they become requirements for acceptance in a church, it is legalistic and we know that legalism leads to bondage and the requirements of keeping the law to maintain salvation.
The Oneness churches also are very strong and imply that if you go to movies, or have a TV, or wear makeup, etc., then you are not "really" a Christian....

Blessings and do hope this helps...
Thanks for the post.


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