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Old 05-17-2012, 01:36 AM
 
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God sees that the world is corrupt. So He goes to Noah, commanding him to build and ark and collect the animals in breeding pairs, await the rain, and repopulate the earth, animal and human, when the flood is done.

Why?

Surely God could have destroyed all the wicked with a simple wave of the hand. No muss, no fuss, no needless killing of animals who after all were innocent.Sure would have been a great demonstration of His omnipotence.....
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:34 AM
 
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God sees that the world is corrupt. So He goes to Noah, commanding him to build and ark and collect the animals in breeding pairs, await the rain, and repopulate the earth, animal and human, when the flood is done.

Why?

Surely God could have destroyed all the wicked with a simple wave of the hand. No muss, no fuss, no needless killing of animals who after all were innocent.Sure would have been a great demonstration of His omnipotence.....
..Maybe the story is symbolic rather than literal?


Blessings,
brian
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Old 05-17-2012, 08:50 AM
 
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God does things as He chooses. He makes the rules. It's not for the pot to criticize the potter.
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Old 05-17-2012, 09:30 AM
 
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God does things as He chooses. He makes the rules. It's not for the pot to criticize the potter.
So God unleashes a double punishment - death in water followed by eternal life in fire. God may be an irrational sadist, but at least He loves irony, not to mention symmetry.
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Old 05-17-2012, 09:41 AM
 
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So God unleashes a double punishment - death in water followed by eternal life in fire. God may be an irrational sadist, but at least He loves irony, not to mention symmetry.
No, that is incorrect.

God's judging is just and judgment is so that they may honor the Son.

Eternal torment is not correct. Age-during chastening is only for the nations that mistreated Christ's brethren and those nations are chastened only during the millennium.

Christ died for all those who lost their lives in the flood. God will resurrect them, set them straight as to their lives and if they are not in the book of life go back into the second death until the end of the ages. Then they will be saved as the end of the ages.
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Old 05-17-2012, 10:07 AM
 
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God does things as He chooses. He makes the rules. It's not for the pot to criticize the potter.


Isaiah 45:7
I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things
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Old 05-17-2012, 10:43 AM
 
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..Maybe the story is symbolic rather than literal?


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Probably symbolic but what about the possibility that those that died in the flood were maybe neanderthal or ? and Noah and his seed were modern day human? But I doubt it's that...I bellieve they found neanderthal genes in certain gene pools.

Or, maybe the flood was the mediterranean area only? Just thinkin' out loud.
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Old 05-17-2012, 12:39 PM
 
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Two possible reasons I think of.

#1
Gen. 6:3 - Then the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years."

Before the flood, people lived several hundreds of years. After the flood, life decresed to aroound 120 years. Something changed atmosperically that allowed this decrease in life to take place.

#2
Rom. 1:17b - "BUT THE RIGHTEOUS man SHALL LIVE BY FAITH."

Faith pleases God. Noah and his family had to exhibit faith in order to carry out God's task and save their lives. They were proven to be righteous and they lived by their faith.

If God simply wipes people away, there is no faith in that. Someone on earth had to have faith, and exhibit their faith. Otherwise no one survives.

Same for Christ - He is the One who followed all tenets of the law and never sinned. Therefore, He was not subject to spiritual death. The body died, but His Spirit lives - and all who has His Spirit in them lives also.
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Old 05-17-2012, 12:47 PM
 
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If Noah and the flood were fictional then Christ's return will be based on fiction too:

Matthew 24:36-39 Now, concerning that day and hour no one is aware, neither the messengers of
the heavens, nor the Son; except the Father only." (37) For even as the days of Noah, thus shall
be the presence of the Son of Mankind." (38) For as they were in those days before the deluge,
masticating and drinking and marrying and taking in marriage until the day on which Noah entered
into the ark
, (39) and did not know till the deluge came and takes them all away, thus shall be the
presence of the Son of Mankind
."
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Old 05-17-2012, 02:30 PM
 
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God's judging is just and judgment is so that they may honor the Son.

Eternal torment is not correct. Age-during chastening is only for the nations that mistreated Christ's brethren and those nations are chastened only during the millennium.

Christ died for all those who lost their lives in the flood. God will resurrect them, set them straight as to their lives and if they are not in the book of life go back into the second death until the end of the ages. Then they will be saved as the end of the ages.
Good post. God bless and peace.
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