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The other point that bears discussion is this: Was Vatican II a permanent shift in the church or, as Ratzinger's counter-reformation seems to claim, was it an aberration? To me, a return to authoritarian orthodoxy is consistent with the rest of church history, and the liberalization of the church that was undertaken in the 1960s is a blip in the continuum of its history.
For too long, the Catholic Church’s stance on public issues has been defined by the outspokenness of its most conservative bishops and the reticence of moderate and progressive prelates. Signs that this might finally be changing are encouraging for the church, and for American politics.
From that article:
When did this ever happen? They spoke out against the very conservative, almost Libertarian-leaning Paul Ryan:
They criticized states that tried to crack down on illegal immigration:
When were these Bishops ever "Conservative"? The Catholic heirarchy is corrupt, no doubt, but it's not a partisan corruption.
The US Bishops did not speak out against Paul Ryan. Only 2 did. The Bishop of Stockton, and the Bishop of Des Moines. Stephen Blaire is the Bishop of Stockton and the one quoted in Dionne's article. The rest were faculty at Jesuit universities like Georgetown.
The criticism of illegal immigration was very muted, very brief and only done to avoid criticism by the Catholic Latino community.
The majority of Bishops are extremely conservative, and becoming more so.
The criticism of illegal immigration was very muted, very brief and only done to avoid criticism by the Catholic Latino community.
This isn't true, but I wish it was. Many high-profile Bishops, like Mahoney in LA, publicly spoke out against it in the media, went on marches and public demonstrations, joined lawsuits against Arizona and others states passing similar laws, and sent amicus briefs to courts hearing those suits . The USCCB speaks on behalf of all bishops (whether they like it or not), and it itself has done all of the above. I've been to 5 different parishes through-out the last 2 years, and every priest, even the ones that are more conservative on other issues, had whole Homilies against it. And they are for universal health care, just not for contraception and abortion, and for utopian quasi-socialist mass government social programs (why they critisized Ryan)......this isn't about partisanship. They are neither conservative nor liberal. They are just power-hungry, as most Bishops and Popes have been through-out history.
Cardinal Mahony spoke out against SB 1070 quite a lot.
Bishop Olmstead of Phoenix put out a brief press release urging President Obama to pass comprehensive immigration reform, then promptly moved on to stripping St. Josephs Hospital of Catholic status and excommunicating an administrator because a pregnancy was terminated at the hospital in order to save the life of the mother.
The other point that bears discussion is this: Was Vatican II a permanent shift in the church or, as Ratzinger's counter-reformation seems to claim, was it an aberration? To me, a return to authoritarian orthodoxy is consistent with the rest of church history, and the liberalization of the church that was undertaken in the 1960s is a blip in the continuum of its history.
John XXIII said it isn't that the Gospel has changed but our understanding of it has, he also said we were not suppose to be keepers of a museum.
The Holy Spirit continues to lead us into deeper understanding, not meant to be kept in a bird cage in the Vatican attic.
Vatican II was not merely a bump in the road, world councils are not held on a whim or just to verify what was taught in the past.
John XXIII said it isn't that the Gospel has changed but our understanding of it has, he also said we were not suppose to be keepers of a museum.
The Holy Spirit continues to lead us into deeper understanding, not meant to be kept in a bird cage in the Vatican attic.
Vatican II was not merely a bump in the road, world councils are not held on a whim or just to verify what was taught in the past.
Hopefully not. But I wouldn't be blind to the possibility. We bailed on our children's parochial school when the Dominican sisters, in accordance with Ratzinger's edict, began teaching all the prayers in Latin.
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