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Old 09-26-2007, 05:59 PM
 
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The question is: For Christians who have been called to not marry, is a "civil union" practical between two brothers-in-christ or two sisters-in-christ since a civil union is not a marriage? Your thoughts.
Nope. Tomato/Tomoto Potato/Pototo -- Still wrong according to the Word of God.

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Old 09-26-2007, 08:29 PM
 
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Homosexual Christians do not exist. Those two terms are mutually exclusive. The Bible so clearly condems homosexuality that the question posed is ridiculous.
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:50 PM
 
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I didn't know that Christians were called not to marry, could you point that scripture out first? please
Thanks
1 Corinthians 7:7 I wish everyone could get along without marrying, just as I do. But we are not all the same. God gives some the gift of marriage, and to others he gives the gift of singleness. 8 Now I say to those who aren't married and to widows – it's better to stay unmarried, just as I am. 9 But if they can't control themselves, they should go ahead and marry. It's better to marry than to burn with lust.
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:53 PM
 
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Homosexual Christians do not exist. Those two terms are mutually exclusive. The Bible so clearly condems homosexuality that the question posed is ridiculous.
Well stated!

Why would two platonic Christians want with a civil union? I guess I don't understand what would be gained from this union??????
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:12 PM
 
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If civil unions are recognized in some states (which I don't know if they are) then wouldn't there be some advantages such as healthcare? For instance, if one person works he/she could provide healthcare benefits for the other?

The Bible doesn't clearly condemn homosexuality. It mentions in a couple places situations that could be construed as condemning homosexual acts that when taken out of context seem to confuse people.

The term "homosexual" is never mentioned in the bible.
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:16 PM
 
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Book of 1 Corinthians
Chapter 6
6:9 -
Know ye (5758) not that the unrighteous shall not inherit (5692) the kingdom of God? Be not deceived (5744): neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Strong's Number: 3120 malako/v
Original Word Word Origin
malako/v of uncertain affinity
Transliterated Word Phonetic Spelling
Malakos mal-ak-os'
Parts of Speech TDNT
Adjective None
Definition
soft, soft to the touch
metaph. in a bad sense
effeminate
of a catamite
of a boy kept for homosexual relations with a man
of a male who submits his body to unnatural lewdness
of a male prostitute

Translated Words
KJV (4) - effeminate, 1; soft, 3;
NAS (4) - effeminate, 1; soft, 3;
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:19 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Why would two platonic Christians want with a civil union? I guess I don't understand what would be gained from this union??????
THAT'S the question I've been trying to answer since this thread started! I don't get it.
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:29 PM
 
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The Bible most certainly does condem homosexuality. I would refer you to the following verses:
Gen 19:5
Deut 22:5
Judges 19:22,23
Romans 1:27
1 Cor 6:9
2 Peter 2:10
Jude 1:8

So what if the word 'homosexual' isn't in the Bible ? Neither is 'trinity', but the idea of a triune God is clearly seen in the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Romans chapter 1 is probably the clearest text condeming homosexuality. Although it's not the greatest of all sins, it is a sin and those who practice it will suffer the consequences, just as those who practice any sin will suffer the consequences. The good news is, Jesus will forgive homosexuals and save them if they ask Him. And He will purge them of that sin.
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:41 PM
 
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If civil unions are recognized in some states (which I don't know if they are) then wouldn't there be some advantages such as healthcare? For instance, if one person works he/she could provide healthcare benefits for the other?

The Bible doesn't clearly condemn homosexuality. It mentions in a couple places situations that could be construed as condemning homosexual acts that when taken out of context seem to confuse people.

The term "homosexual" is never mentioned in the bible.

Big... This would really be hard to misconstrue...
Genesis 19:4-11
4 Now before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both old and young, all the people from every quarter, surrounded the house. 5 And they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may know them carnally." 6 So Lot went out to them through the doorway, shut the door behind him, 7 and said, "Please, my brethren, do not do so wickedly! 8 See now, I have two daughters who have not known a man; please, let me bring them out to you, and you may do to them as you wish; only do nothing to these men, since this is the reason they have come under the shadow of my roof."

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Old 09-26-2007, 10:55 PM
 
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Book of 1 Corinthians
Chapter 6
6:9 -
Know ye (5758) not that the unrighteous shall not inherit (5692) the kingdom of God? Be not deceived (5744): neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Strong's Number: 3120 malako/v
Original Word Word Origin
malako/v of uncertain affinity
Transliterated Word Phonetic Spelling
Malakos mal-ak-os'
Parts of Speech TDNT
Adjective None
Definition
soft, soft to the touch
metaph. in a bad sense
effeminate
of a catamite
of a boy kept for homosexual relations with a man
of a male who submits his body to unnatural lewdness
of a male prostitute

Translated Words
KJV (4) - effeminate, 1; soft, 3;
NAS (4) - effeminate, 1; soft, 3;
If Paul wanted to refer to homosexual behavior, he would have used the word "paiderasste." That was the standard Greek term at the time for sexual behavior between males.

So is it effeminate or soft?
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