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a longing (especially for what is forbidden): - concupiscence, desire, lust (after).
There are lusts (desires) which are wrong and lusts that are not wrong.
Wrong lust is a desire for things that are unlawful. All men have desires for things that are unlawful - it is our nature. God is looking at what you do with those desires.
Did Jesus have desires by which he was tempted?
THE SCRIPTURES CANNOT BE BROKEN...
The Scriptures say this about Jesus:
"Wherefore in all things it behooved Him to be made LIKE UNTO HIS
BRETHREN, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest..."
(Hebrews 2:17)
"For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the
feeling of our infirmities; BUT WAS IN ALL POINTS TEMPTED LIKE
AS WE ARE, yet without sin." (Hebrews 4:15)
"But every man is TEMPTED, (Greek: Tested) when he is drawn
away of his own LUST..." (James 1:14)
THE PROOF
IF: Every man is TEMPTED when he is drawn
away of his own lust,
AND: Jesus was "MADE LIKE UNTO HIS BRETHREN"
and "IN ALL POINTS TEMPTED LIKE AS WE ARE",
THEN: Jesus was TEMPTED when he was drawn away of his
own LUST.
THEREFORE:
IF: Jesus was TEMPTED when he was drawn away of his own
LUST,
AND: Jesus was "yet without sin".
THEN: Lust itself is not an act of sin!
Jesus was tempted through his human nature just as we are and yet he did not sin.
The Bible says that all Christians are tempted and drawn away of their
own lust, but "He that committeth sin is of the devil." (1 John 3:8)
The Devil wants us to commit sin and "sin is the transgression of the
law." Those who knowingly choose to disobey any part of God's Ten
Commandment Law (including the Sabbath) are obeying the Devil. They
are his servants and will share his fate on Judgement day. Paul warned:
"Know ye not that, to whom ye yield yourselves
servants to obey, his servants ye are..."
Romans 6:16
The most important question a Christian can ask himself is: Whose
servant am I?
"Jesus answered...Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin."
John 8:58
I am sure He had longings for righteousness and love but I dont know if I would call it lust. Now if we place your little definition on it, if we were to call it lust it would have to be good lust.
a longing (especially for what is forbidden): - concupiscence, desire, lust (after).
There are lusts (desires) which are wrong and lusts that are not wrong.
Wrong lust is a desire for things that are unlawful. All men have desires for things that are unlawful - it is our nature. God is looking at what you do with those desires.
Did Jesus have desires by which he was tempted?
THE SCRIPTURES CANNOT BE BROKEN...
The Scriptures say this about Jesus:
"Wherefore in all things it behooved Him to be made LIKE UNTO HIS
BRETHREN, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest..."
(Hebrews 2:17)
"For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the
feeling of our infirmities; BUT WAS IN ALL POINTS TEMPTED LIKE
AS WE ARE, yet without sin." (Hebrews 4:15)
"But every man is TEMPTED, (Greek: Tested) when he is drawn
away of his own LUST..." (James 1:14)
THE PROOF
IF: Every man is TEMPTED when he is drawn
away of his own lust,
AND: Jesus was "MADE LIKE UNTO HIS BRETHREN"
and "IN ALL POINTS TEMPTED LIKE AS WE ARE",
THEN: Jesus was TEMPTED when he was drawn away of his
own LUST.
THEREFORE:
IF: Jesus was TEMPTED when he was drawn away of his own
LUST,
AND: Jesus was "yet without sin".
THEN: Lust itself is not an act of sin!
Jesus was tempted through his human nature just as we are and yet he did not sin.
The Bible says that all Christians are tempted and drawn away of their
own lust, but "He that committeth sin is of the devil." (1 John 3:8)
The Devil wants us to commit sin and "sin is the transgression of the
law." Those who knowingly choose to disobey any part of God's Ten
Commandment Law (including the Sabbath) are obeying the Devil. They
are his servants and will share his fate on Judgement day. Paul warned:
"Know ye not that, to whom ye yield yourselves
servants to obey, his servants ye are..."
Romans 6:16
The most important question a Christian can ask himself is: Whose
servant am I?
"Jesus answered...Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin."
John 8:58
HK
I rarely take strong exception with individuals interpretation of scripture.
Many of us I discover, are usaully not that far apart. We just use different jargon that is common to our various communities.
And, there are times that we differ on some more important doctrine. However, it would appear that most of us agree on the fundamentals.
But in this case, (as I understand Christ) one of us is not a Christian.
And I say this with in all seriousness.....
That one of us may a child of the father of lies.
a longing (especially for what is forbidden): - concupiscence, desire, lust (after).
There are lusts (desires) which are wrong and lusts that are not wrong.
Wrong lust is a desire for things that are unlawful. All men have desires for things that are unlawful - it is our nature. God is looking at what you do with those desires.
Did Jesus have desires by which he was tempted?
THE SCRIPTURES CANNOT BE BROKEN...
The Scriptures say this about Jesus:
"Wherefore in all things it behooved Him to be made LIKE UNTO HIS
BRETHREN, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest..."
(Hebrews 2:17)
"For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the
feeling of our infirmities; BUT WAS IN ALL POINTS TEMPTED LIKE
AS WE ARE, yet without sin." (Hebrews 4:15)
"But every man is TEMPTED, (Greek: Tested) when he is drawn
away of his own LUST..." (James 1:14)
THE PROOF
IF: Every man is TEMPTED when he is drawn
away of his own lust,
AND: Jesus was "MADE LIKE UNTO HIS BRETHREN"
and "IN ALL POINTS TEMPTED LIKE AS WE ARE",
THEN: Jesus was TEMPTED when he was drawn away of his
own LUST.
THEREFORE:
IF: Jesus was TEMPTED when he was drawn away of his own
LUST,
AND: Jesus was "yet without sin".
THEN: Lust itself is not an act of sin!
Jesus was tempted through his human nature just as we are and yet he did not sin.
The Bible says that all Christians are tempted and drawn away of their
own lust, but "He that committeth sin is of the devil." (1 John 3:8)
The Devil wants us to commit sin and "sin is the transgression of the
law." Those who knowingly choose to disobey any part of God's Ten
Commandment Law (including the Sabbath) are obeying the Devil. They
are his servants and will share his fate on Judgement day. Paul warned:
"Know ye not that, to whom ye yield yourselves
servants to obey, his servants ye are..."
Romans 6:16
The most important question a Christian can ask himself is: Whose
servant am I?
"Jesus answered...Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin."
John 8:58
HK
quote:The Greek word for lust simply means "a longing".
G1939 epithumia:a longing (especially for what is forbidden): - concupiscence, desire, lust (after).
That is not a true statement in and of itself.
This is the noun:#1939.epithumiaep-ee-thoo-mee'-ahfrom 1937; a longing (especially for what is forbidden):--concupiscence, desire, lust (after).
this is the verb: #1937.epithumeoep-ee-thoo-meh'-o from 1909 and 2372; to set the heart upon, i.e. long for (rightfully or otherwise):--covet, desire, would fain, lust (after).
Quote: THEN: Jesus was TEMPTED when he was drawn away of his own LUST.
Comment: That my friend is blashpemy!
Quote:
AND: Jesus was "yet without sin".THEN: Lust itself is not an act of sin!
Comment: That is NOT true.
Mt 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to *lust (#1939) after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Ga 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the *lust (#1939)of the flesh.
Jas 1:15 Then when *lust(#1939) hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
1Jo 2:16 For all that is in the world, the *lust (#1939)of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
Harold you are just concoting lies to continue to promote your BIGGEST lie that we can be sinless. That is a lie from satan and makes Jesus' death on the cross not good enough.
As I told you in another post. I pray you fall on your face, repent and beg God's forgiveness for promoting such untruths!
IF: Every man is TEMPTED when he is drawn
away of his own lust,
AND: Jesus was "MADE LIKE UNTO HIS BRETHREN"
and "IN ALL POINTS TEMPTED LIKE AS WE ARE",
THEN: Jesus was TEMPTED when he was drawn away of his
own LUST.
THEREFORE:
IF: Jesus was TEMPTED when he was drawn away of his own
LUST,
AND: Jesus was "yet without sin".
THEN: Lust itself is not an act of sin!
HK
Jesus was tempted, but He was NOT drawn away of His own lust. Did He EVER desire (lust) the things He was tempted with? No. Therefore, Jesus did not lust, nor did He sin.
You say...
Lust itself is not an act of sin!
The Bible says...
Matt 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
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